Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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rjs246

Quote from: SunMo on January 18, 2008, 03:46:28 PM
that may or may not be true...

but honestly, it's more fun to make biting sarcastic remarks in response to everything

Here here!
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Cerevant

I keep forgetting - the first priority here is to take advantage of the supposed anonymity to be as obnoxious as humanly possible.  Everything else takes the back seat.  (I'm sure there's a butt sex joke there somewhere...)
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on January 18, 2008, 03:44:41 PM
If you read the whole farging post, you'd see that I started with evidence that the system as a whole is as good as, or is more effective than the US system.

When debating using logic, you cannot prove by example, but you can disprove by example (proof by counterexample).  Do some people have to wait for certain procedures?  I'm sure they do.  Do all people who live in Canada have to wait months for treatment for life threatening illness?  No, clearly not.

You couldn't even find a farging primary care physician without getting a hook-up.  Sounds great.


Quote from: rjs246 on January 18, 2008, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: SunMo on January 18, 2008, 03:46:28 PM
that may or may not be true...

but honestly, it's more fun to make biting sarcastic remarks in response to everything

Here here!

Me three!

Cerevant

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 18, 2008, 03:52:27 PM
You couldn't even find a farging primary care physician without getting a hook-up.  Sounds great.

Quote from: Cerevant on January 18, 2008, 03:36:24 PM
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The only complaint I hear is that in this small town (with a large retired population), there aren't enough GPs for everyone to have a regular family doctor.  However, there are clinics that will see you by appointment.
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In short, I heard a lot of horror stories before I came up here, and my #1 concern about moving to Canada was health care.  Are there things that are better in the US?  Absolutely.  I miss being able to choose a doctor rather than feeling lucky to have found one.  I miss being able to see my doctor today or this week rather than 2 or 3 weeks from now.  But I have never been concerned about the care my family has received since we moved here.

This is a far cry from the "dying waiting for treatment" bullshtein that I was responding to.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

phattymatty


PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on January 18, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
This is a far cry from the "dying waiting for treatment" bullshtein that I was responding to.

Well, I never said that anyone was dying waiting for treatment, but the nature of the system reduces choice, access, and motivation for the most intelligent and ambitious people to enter the medical or pharmaceutical fields.

Making health care a right of all citizens doesn't mean that we have to go to pure Socialism.

Plus, you're ugly.


Congrats on the new baby, by the way.

Rome

Quote from: Cerevant on January 18, 2008, 03:51:59 PM
I keep forgetting - the first priority here is to take advantage of the supposed anonymity to be as obnoxious as humanly possible.  Everything else takes the back seat.  (I'm sure there's a butt sex joke there somewhere...)

You've ruled out anyone telling AIDS jokes anymore so butt secks (sic) jokes are all we have left.

Thanks for nothing.

fansince61

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Quote from: Cerevant on January 18, 2008, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on January 18, 2008, 02:51:36 PM
I go to Canada a lot.

I live in Canada, so I call bullshtein.

So yeah, bullshtein.

I obvously don't know as many Canadians as you do and my "friends" are over 50.  One friend had a heart attack five years ago (5"9, 180lb lumberjack) and had 7 heart blockages.  Four were repaired with stints three were unrepairable as they were in Y locations.  He scored too low for a bypass (age and wt factors lowered his ranking).  He is now close on the waiting list for by passes and been on blood thinners five years (only light work).  He would have been fixed ASAP in USA with a bypasses .  He didn't have the money to come on his own here as so many in Canada do.   About 1 million people a year come here as there country can't get them in fast enough..don't know how many are Canadians but some figures say 1/2

I'm glad it works for you...but I say Bullshtien that we should even consider going that way.

rjs246

Doctors are for the weak. Did cavemen need stitches? Or CT scans? Pah!
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Sgt PSN

They didn't need to get loaded before shagging some hairy skank with sagging tits and cankles either. 

Phanatic

Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 18, 2008, 02:43:00 PM
Made me think of this guy. The resemblance is uncanny



AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

I Hate that guy! Movies stunk at that point but he was freaky!
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PhillyGirl

I know, the movie sucked bad....but that guy gave me major creeps for weeks.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Phanatic

I don't know the US system is now F'd up royally and people who don't know how to work it die on the table. My uncle recently went through lung cancer where if his family hadn't asked the right questions he'd have died, but hey the physician wouldn't have been libel for anything. My Mom is going through a similar problem where the Dr's aren't sure what's wrong and won't make any guesses so she goes out on the internet researching and trying to figure out what to ask so that the Doctor will recommend the right tests.

As a family we've had two Doctors drop out of public practice because of the cost to operate. Now our Dr is so busy it takes us 3 weeks to get into see him. I'm not seeing a heck of a lot of diffence. It's just being caused by different things.
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Cerevant

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 18, 2008, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on January 18, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
This is a far cry from the "dying waiting for treatment" bullshtein that I was responding to.

Well, I never said that anyone was dying waiting for treatment...
No, that was fs61, who thinks the US shouldn't have subsidized health care because he knows some guy that needs a bypass. 

Quotebut the nature of the system reduces choice, access, and motivation for the most intelligent and ambitious people to enter the medical or pharmaceutical fields.
Actually, the problem is that too many of them go into specialties, because they pay better.  Still, if Canada spent what the US spends on healthcare, the doctors would make much more.

QuoteMaking health care a right of all citizens doesn't mean that we have to go to pure Socialism.
Agreed.  I am for subsidized private insurance...just like Obama (back on topic!)

QuotePlus, you're ugly.
I never contested this.


QuoteCongrats on the new baby, by the way.
Thanks![/quote]
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.