The observation thread

[ice grillin you]

i do agree that they have much of the personel to do it...but dont you think andy runs the ball 50 times a game before we see jj go 3-4...in fact would you even want jj trying to run something he has no clue about...

as for killa in that alignment he would play the same role demarcus ware plays in dallas and hed be damn good at it

[reese125]

I still would like to see JJ employ more of a 3-4 system using Gocong and Gaither as the OLB's, Spikes and Stewie inside. 

Then what do you do with an undersized Trent Cole? The dude is a beast but asking him to play that DE/DT hybrid position would neutralize a lot of his talent.

I don't think it's an awful idea to use more 3-4 looks, mind you, but Cole isn't really the prototypical 3-4 lineman.

sure he would, hes 6'3 270...whats your prototypical then?

[rjs246]

7'8 640

[Seabiscuit36]

i do agree that they have much of the personel to do it...but dont you think andy runs the ball 50 times a game before we see jj go 3-4...in fact would you even want jj trying to run something he has no clue about...

as for killa in that alignment he would play the same role demarcus ware plays in dallas and hed be damn good at it

How friggin hard would it be for JJ to learn/install 5-10 plays using that alignment.  I know its a pipe dream, and there certainly is more of a chance of andy pounding the ball all except 10 plays then JJ changing up his same shtein. 

[ice grillin you]

oh my bad five to ten plays...i thought you meant switch to a 3-4

switching full alignments from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in the midst of a game is harder than you would think...i think its much simpler to just move players around and try to put them into positions where they can be more successful as you mentioned with gocong...but changing an entire way of playing defense on the run probably isnt the ideal thing to do

[reese125]

7'8 640

really? that seems awfully heavy

[rjs246]

It's mostly just waterweight.

[Seabiscuit36]

oh my bad five to ten plays...i thought you meant switch to a 3-4

switching full alignments from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in the midst of a game is harder than you would think...i think its much simpler to just move players around and try to put them into positions where they can be more successful as you mentioned with gocong...but changing an entire way of playing defense on the run probably isnt the ideal thing to do

Figured installing a package might be easier than JJ switching his whole philosophy.  He's used players in the past in the specialist , a la Joker role.  I just want to see Gocong put in rush positons where he has done pretty well, but nowhere near the level that Muson thinks he has played.  Killa would be a guy who would Flourish in that role.  Then again the guy keeps getting better. 

[ice grillin you]

the biggest reason to upgrade juquas spot is it makes cole that much better...hes a beast now imagine having an attention getter across from him

[Seabiscuit36]

the biggest reason to upgrade juquas spot is it makes cole that much better...hes a beast now imagine having an attention getter across from him

exactly, It's why Osi does well in NY.  Osi is nowhere close to Killa if he doesnt have a good line with him, and Strahan opposite him.  He was sackless up until the eagles game

[ice grillin you]

yeah that POS african sucks...hes so overrated mostly cause he plays in ny...i hate the ny media more than life

[Rome]

I can't stress enough how much this defense needs another star defensive end.  I love Cole and all but he's not the prototypical defensive end you're looking for to take over a game.  He has his moments and can be devastating but if he had a legitimate, top-flight bookend he would be much, much better.  Scary as it is to say, actually.

Get another guy who's in the quarterback's face all day AND can play the run and this defense gets a whole lot better.

Safeties are a huge priority too but if I had to choose between another great safety and another great defensive end, gimme the DE.

[BigEd76]

Here's what Johnson says about the defense for 2008:

-- need help at cornerback and defensive end
-- Dawk has 1 year left physically...maybe 2
-- Mikell and Considine will compete at SS, with Mikell the favorite to start
-- Considine's second shoulder surgery was better than the first and he'll be back for early camps
-- Will James is gone thanks to Hanson
-- Spikes' option will likely be picked up
-- Nothing at LB is set although Bradley will get more playing time
-- DT is pretty much set

[ice grillin you]

Nothing at LB is set although Bradley will get more playing time


not sure how much of all that you can really take at face value but i really like the above statement

[Rome]

If J.J. doesn't think he needs immediate help at safety then he should be given his gold watch and sent out to pasture.

Mikell & Considine aren't starters.  They're special teamers and defensive backups, period.