The observation thread

[Munson]

stop drinking the kool aid on every experiment this front office trys to force feed you on..whether it be curtis being better than stallworth or gocong being an nfl linebacker...you cant have watched this past season and like gocongs play not that youd (munson) have clue even if you had watched...and if your argument is "well he wasnt horrible" then be ahshamed youve been had by banner swirly lolipop

bradley should have every opportunity given to him in camp next year to unseat gaither at mike...he played a hell of a game sunday......

i think omar is best suited to be a fourth linebacker that could come in and help at mike and wil when needed....either for an injury or a situational down like playing the middle in passing situations

IGY-Look around, you're the only one still down talking Gocong's  play this year. He has steadily improved as the year has gone on.

And the numbers don't lie....Curtis has been more consistent then Stallworth was, both in production and hands. Stop hating just to hate and accept that not EVERYTHING was a total failure this year.

[ice grillin you]

IGY-Look around, you're the only one still down talking Gocong's  play this year. He has steadily improved as the year has gone on.

i dont need to look around i watch the games and make my judgements i dont go by what the people on a message board say and ive watched every game this year and most of them twice...gocong is a non entity...he cant get to the ball and he cant do anything when he does...hes not an nfl linebacker (not a 4-3 one anyway)...he wasnt when they drafted him and he isnt now...as ive said before he could hold some value as an off the edge rusher well see...but i defy you to name me one impact play he made this entire year other than the brady sack...the answer is he didnt...i want my linebackers to hold at least some big play value and none of the eagles do with gocong being the worst of the lot...to put gocongs year in perspective stuart bradley made more plays sunday they gocong has in the first 15 games

Heres a farging observation for you all.

Brian Westbrook has 1,291 yds. rushing and 714 receiving for 2,005 all purpose yds. with 12 td's in 14 games. Should be 13 td's if not for showing that he's a total team player with one of the most unselfish, classy moves I've ever seen on a football field when he kneeled it down on the one yard line to let the clock run out against Dallas.

4th in the league total yds. rushing with a 4.8 per carry avg. and 92.2 per game. He has the 41st most yds. receiving in the league. He has more yds. receiving than Donte' Stallworth, Santana Moss, Isaac Bruce, Calvin Johnson, and yes, Reggie Brown.

He has 86 recpts. 271 rush attmpts. for 375 total touches. He has one fumble on a recpt., and we all saw the hit that caused it.


With a game left to go, he already has numbers that blow away any back the Eagles have had. He's the best rb in the game right now, and and argument could be made that he's the best offensive player period thats not a qb.  

hes no question the second best offensive player in the nfl right now behind lt...and hes the best philadelphia eagle player of all time not named reggie white

[Seabiscuit36]

 EAGLES CORNERBACK CALLS OUT COACHING STAFF

Over the years, we've seen plenty of situations in which players had unflattering things to say about their coaching staffs.  Usually, there's an edge to it, a clear sense that the player knows that he's stirring up trouble.

The recent words of Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown regarding his team's struggles in 2007 are more matter-of-fact and, in a way, innocent.  By all appearances, he's merely being candid, with no malice or agenda.

"We all played tight -- you know what I mean?" Brown said to reporters on Sunday, after the Eagles finished an impressive duo of road wins over the Cowboys and the Saints.  "The last two weeks it was like:  Let's just go play ball.  We should have had that attitude from day one."

Asked why it didn't happen, Brown said:  "It's a trickle-down effect.  If the coaches feel tight, it trickles down to the players.  They're like:  Oh, I can't make a mistake.  I can't make a mistake.

"Now the coaches are relaxed, the players are relaxed and we're having fun playing and that's how it's always been since I've been here.  I don't know why it wasn't that way from the beginning."

The most surprising aspect of all of this is that Brown's comments were largely ignored by the Philadelphia print media.  The comments first appeared on December 24 at phillyburbs.com.  On Tuesday, the comments showed up in the Cherry Hill (N.J.) Courier Post.

The remarks deserve far more attention than that, as does the question of why the coaches were feeling tight earlier in the year.


This is everyone's favorite PFT but worth the post

[SunMo]

that's hardly calling out the coaches...PFT sucks

and stfu sheldon...who cares is the coaches feel tight...make a farging tackle and you probably win the Seattle game

[Seabiscuit36]

ooh, PG is gonna stangle you

[ice grillin you]

that's hardly calling out the coaches...PFT sucks

yes and yes

and the reason it gets limited attention is because basically hes saying its easier to play when you have nothing to play for....gee willikers really?!?!?!?

its the same reason you hear fans say they dont want to win the last couple games because it gives teams a false sense of hope...the reason for this is because game one of next year is a much bigger test than game 15 this year...and what you do now has no bearing on what you do next septemeber...

if sheldon or any other player had say made a play against chicago on that final drive when the games mattered perhaps this wouldnt be a discussion now

[QB Eagles]

The remarks deserve far more attention than that

No. Articles about player remarks are the lowest form of sportswriting. Furthermore, these remarks were completely boring and meaningless. The statements the Eagles make through their play on the field give us a clearer picture of how the coaches are doing than any BS interview in the media possibly could.

[shorebird]

LT is better, but your point is well taken

When LT is playing like he is now, and not like he did at the begining of the year, he's better. I don't know what was up with that team at the start of this year, but they have it in gear now, which is a good thing going into the playoffs.

I have to say right now, with the league lead in all purpose yards, Bwest is having a little better year. LT's 1,886 total from scrimmage and Adrian Peterson's 1,567 are the closest to Bwest. It looks like Peterson is really going to be a beast. I'd love to see what he could do in a full season. If I had to pick one out of the three for next years FF, I'd say Peterson will be better than Bwest or LT. His 5.7 yds. per carry, 12 TD's, and 1,305 yds. in just 13 games are the most serious of shtein. Did Barry Sanders ever avg. 5.7 per carry a season?

What can I say, it's the homer in me that puts Bwest a shade over LT this year.

[SunMo]

LT and Westbrook are both better than Peterson due to the fact that they can catch the ball, they are basically wide recievers.

I put LT over Westbrook because he's more durable, a little bigger, and a better runner between the tackles.


They are pretty close though

[shorebird]

Heres a farging observation for you all.
Brian Westbrook   

hes no question the second best offensive player in the nfl right now behind lt...and hes the best philadelphia eagle player of all time not named reggie white

.....and now you know the rest of the story.......

Paul Harvey.....good day!

[ice grillin you]

lt is better because hes a much better runner ( then again he might be the best ever)....also and most of all he gets in the end zone like almost no one thats ever played...

westbrook as great as he is is not close to lt

[Displaced]

Did Barry Sanders ever avg. 5.7 per carry a season?

I think he may have averaged 5.1 for his career.

[Displaced]

I'm tired of the plug & pray bulshtein.

I would like to observe that this is the best line on so many levels I have seen on this board since I have been reading it.

Not plug & play but plug and pray.

That is primo.

[QB Eagles]

Did Barry Sanders ever avg. 5.7 per carry a season?

Twice. He averaged 6.1 in 1997.

[shorebird]

LT and Westbrook are both better than Peterson due to the fact that they can catch the ball, they are basically wide recievers.

I put LT over Westbrook because he's more durable, a little bigger, and a better runner between the tackles.


They are pretty close though

This is true. And theres aways the chance that LT will have another one of those monster years like last year.

As for Peterson, I could see him coming real close to 2,000 yds. just rushing alone. 16 games with the numbers he has now put him between 1,600 and 1,700 yds. rushing easy.