The observation thread

[Sgt PSN]

curtis has had the quietest 1000 yard season of all time and whatever numbers he has put up have made way less of an impact on the team than what stallworth did last year

While I agree with this for the most part, I like Curtis more than most of the other slop we've been watching pretend to be a #1 reciever......or just a reciever for that matter.  Dude's made some damn nice catches and rarely drops what most of us would consider catchable balls. 

One thing to keep in mind though is that he had a less than 100% McNabb throwing to him for most of the year.  It seems like in the last couple weeks as McNabb has looked better, so has Curtis (and Reggie too). 

[QB Eagles]

Free agent WRs

Randy Moss, UFA
Bernard Berrian, UFA
Patrick Crayton, UFA
Bryant Johnson, UFA
Drew Carter, UFA
Andre Davis, UFA
Justin Gage, UFA
Antonio Chatman, UFA
Keary Colbert, UFA
Terrance Copper, UFA
Malcom Floyd, RFA
Doug Gabriel, UFA
D.J. Hackett, UFA
Az-Zahir Hakim, UFA
Taylor Jacobs, UFA
Jerome Mathis, RFA
Samie Parker, UFA
David Patten, UFA
Marcus Robinson, UFA
Devery Henderson, UFA

Everybody get ready for the exciting "Samie Parker, Philadelphia Eagle" thread this offseason.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

D.J. Hackett is going to be coming off injury and comes from Holmgren's system.

[shorebird]

Which makes him a perfect fit in Reid's eyes.

[shorebird]

What kind of contract will the Pats be willing to give Moss?? After seeing the contribution he made to that team this year I'd bet they break the bank and don't even give him a chance to hit the market.

Not to mention that after they go undefeated and probably win the Superbowl he most likely won't want to go anywere else anyway. Especially after the experiance he had with the Raiders.

[ice grillin you]

curtis has had the quietest 1000 yard season of all time and whatever numbers he has put up have made way less of an impact on the team than what stallworth did last year

btw shore i won this year

Yeah, but the Eagles could still tie in the division standings, right? Spilt the two division games, neither will win the division, and could tie for division record.

You generalize about Curtis. "curtis has had the quietest 1000 yard season of all time"? That is just the way that everyone who said Curtis wasn't very good, can't get open, and isn't as good as Stallworth justifies all the bad and wrong things they said about him. When he finally got a chance to be a 1 or 2 option in this league, he more than doubled his stats for any previous year. Any time a receiver has over a thousand yards on this team, it's anything but quiet. If it had been Reggie that had done it, who everyone was either hoping or expecting it from, you'd be singing a different tune. But when it's a guy like Curtis, who very few of us here thought would be productive, and all the so called brainiacs said was slow and couldn't get open does it, you try and justify your previous opinion by saying it was a "quiet 1,000 yards" and made less of an impact than Stallworth did.

As for your last statement about the impact either player had, the one year Stallworth played, he had 665 yards, a 15.5 yd. avg., 5 td's, with 43 recpts. in 12 games. Looking at that one can't help but think that Stallworth made more of an impact to this team with the four games he missed than when he played. If he had been healthy and played those four games, he might have come close to Curtis's numbers, but he didn't. The impact of him missing those four games was big.

thats true about the overall record...i was thinking the skins were two up on the birds...

stallworths impact on the rest of the team was bigger...the offense was way more explosive with him opening up the field with his speed and game breaking ability...as for not playing in certain games stallworth was huge in two playoff games scoring in both of them something curtis wont be doing this year...curtis is a fine wr but hes not a game changer...hes best to be slotted in that #2/3 spot

[Rome]

Do the words "straight cash, homey" mean anything to you?

[Munson]

IGY-Stallworth was inconsistant, and had a healthy McNabb and then a healthy Garcia throwing to him. Curtis has worked with an, at best, sub par Donovan McNabb this year. He's shown to have better hands then Stallworth, and has been a bit more consistent, especially as the year went on.

Even Reggie Brown has looked better in recent weeks with a healthier McNabb throwing to him.

Fact is, both Stallworth and Curtis are both better suited as #2 guys next to a true #1. I'm not willing to accept that Reid will do something about that though, and our starting WR's next year will probably be Curtis and Brown again. The thing this offense has missed the most, IMO, is production from the TE spot. And lack of running the ball, but that's Reid's play calling, not the personnel.

Get Moss...please?

[shorebird]

igy we'll have to agree to disagree with the comparisons of Stallworth and Curtis. I will say that Stallworth has a bit more speed, but Curtis runs better routes, has better pass catching ability, and doesnt' have those nasty hammy problems that have plagued Donte' most of his career.

And if this team had had any type of playoff hopes, or a healthy qb coming into this year, Curtis's impact would have been a lot greater than what your seeing now, which is as stated before, only the second 1,000 season in ten years for this team.

[shorebird]

What I really wanted to know about was what observations any who watched the game made on Bradley. He had some nice tackles and the one play I really saw while partying was his dive for the int. That was sweet!

Gaither has played better than I ever thought he would, but he's really doesn't fit the mold for a mlb in the NFL. For Bradley to come out and play that well in his first start at the position makes a statement, imo.

[Munson]

I think Spikes will be here at least next year, but after that, the regime will probably expieriment with a WIL-MIKE-SAM of Gaither-Stewart-Gocong. I like Gaither best at the WIL, and if Gocong's improvement this year continues, I doubt they'll remove him anytime soon. If they like what they see in Stewart, there's no way they try him at WIL and leave Gaither in the middle.

No need to proclaim him future starter yet, but I definitely liked what I saw Sunday. The two run stuffs at the goal line on 3rd and 4th down were particularly good to see. And honestly I've liked Gocong's play all year. He showed his inexperience early in the season, but as the year went on he's played better, hasn't over pursued as much, has done a good job against TE's, and has been getting some pressure on the blitz/when he's been put as down lineman (when's the last time we had that from a LB?). The future isn't quite as dim at SAM anymore, for the ime being.

[ice grillin you]

stop drinking the kool aid on every experiment this front office trys to force feed you on..whether it be curtis being better than stallworth or gocong being an nfl linebacker...you cant have watched this past season and like gocongs play not that youd (munson) have clue even if you had watched...and if your argument is "well he wasnt horrible" then be ahshamed youve been had by banner swirly lolipop

bradley should have every opportunity given to him in camp next year to unseat gaither at mike...he played a hell of a game sunday......

i think omar is best suited to be a fourth linebacker that could come in and help at mike and wil when needed....either for an injury or a situational down like playing the middle in passing situations

[shorebird]

i think omar is best suited to be a fourth linebacker that could come in and help at mike and wil when needed....either for an injury or a situational down like playing the middle in passing situations

He is good in coverage, for shore. But you won't be seeing him in your scenario on this team. He's starting somewere. Still even with what looked to be a weakness at the beginning of the season, the Eagles have the 5th best run D in the league allowing 92.7 yds. a game and an avg. of 3.8 yds. a carry, 4th in the league. You don't do that with linebackers that suck all that bad. Give credit to the o-line too, what was thought to have been their biggest weakness, the run-D, has been a pleasant suprise.

[shorebird]

Heres a farging observation for you all.

Brian Westbrook has 1,291 yds. rushing and 714 receiving for 2,005 all purpose yds. with 12 td's in 14 games. Should be 13 td's if not for showing that he's a total team player with one of the most unselfish, classy moves I've ever seen on a football field when he kneeled it down on the one yard line to let the clock run out against Dallas.

4th in the league total yds. rushing with a 4.8 per carry avg. and 92.2 per game. He has the 41st most yds. receiving in the league. He has more yds. receiving than Donte' Stallworth, Santana Moss, Isaac Bruce, Calvin Johnson, and yes, Reggie Brown.

He has 86 recpts. 271 rush attmpts. for 375 total touches. He has one fumble on a recpt., and we all saw the hit that caused it.


With a game left to go, he already has numbers that blow away any back the Eagles have had. He's the best rb in the game right now, and and argument could be made that he's the best offensive player period thats not a qb.  

[SunMo]

LT is better, but your point is well taken