The observation thread

[BigEd76]

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[pinoyboy2pt0]

...just a quickie for y'all who are able to watch the game.  Watch and see if Patterson gets blown off the ball then replaced/subbed.

I was rewatching the Dallas game on NFL Replay, and on Dallas' first possession Patterson got pushed back a good 4 yards (this has happened before in multiple games...) then almost tossed to the ground.  1v1, again by big Leonard Davis and no push for the next down.  JJ on 3rd and 10 took him out for cole/howard/va/juqua.  we generated a rush with those 4 (romo was in shotgun).

speaking of shotgun, i don't really understand why big red loves it so much.  esp. when going against a fast, 1 gap, speed, 3-4 team like dallas.  the ends fly around tra and runyan, and once they do that they keep going or spin around after mcnabb has scrambled chasing him upfield.  then good ol mm/ar calls dem "explosive plays" that take 8 seconds to develop, no one gets open, mcnabb holds the ball and basically gets killed.  ware, ellis, all had their shots on mcnabb that game.  not to mention when he gets flushed a nice horse collar from roy bc of the retarded playcalling that forces 5 to step up and improvise.  there were many times when mcnabb was going shotgun with 5 step drops...that's 8 yards behind the LOS.  so instead of the lb's/ends running into a semicircle of protection in 4-5 yards, they are almost running in a straight line to get mcnabb almost 10 yards back.  so when/if he does get sacked, it's a nice loss of 6-10 yards.  meh.  i will say one thing though, 5 is good vs zone coverage.  he throws it to the receiver before they even turn around, probably why we (he) dominated detroit so much.

anywho, back to patterson.  on dallas' second drive, patterson was out.  1st and 2nd kimo was in there and did a better job.  then on 3rd down monte was in.  everyone else, juqua, bunk, cole - stayed in. 

3rd drive = juqua/bunk/kimo/howard in.   2 tight 2wr, then 3 wide 1 te 1rb then 4 wides 1 rb (witten out at wr last two times)  then after the long catch to witten juqua/monte/howard/cole

mikell pick, fumble then it's juqua/kimo/bunk/cole
3rd and 11 juqua/monte/howard/cole

4th drive juqua/patterson/bunk/cole - patterson creates some push after him resting on the bench
then he's back on it after a few (4?) plays and kimo's in again.
same drive, 3rd & 4 juqua/va/howard/cole - lito pick

what'd corey play...40% of the snaps?  i know we rotate, but it seems like out of all of them (next to va) he gets the fewest snaps. 

just curious to see how much he plays vs n.o.

[shorebird]

I was at a x-mas party yesterday and the Eagles were not on much, but from what I did see, Bradley filled in well for Gaither. That was one hell of a diving catch on his int. How did you guys see it?

Forgot to tivo one of the best offensive preformances this team had all year, besides the Detroit game. Damn!

[shorebird]

Here is another observation. Kevin Curtis goes over a grand for the season against the Saints with 1,048 yards. To put that in perspective, TO was the last one to do it in '04'. Before that, you have to go all the way back to Irving Fryar in '96' and '97'. Curtis is only the second 1,000 receiver this team has had in the last 10 years. His 70 recpts., 15 yd. avg., 75 yd. lng., and 6 td's all lead the team. To put it bluntly, he's having a hell of a year and looks every bit as good as Stallworth, if not better.

[ice grillin you]

curtis has had the quietest 1000 yard season of all time and whatever numbers he has put up have made way less of an impact on the team than what stallworth did last year

btw shore i won this year

[BigEd76]

Curtis is only the second 1,000 receiver this team has had in the Andy Reid "spread it around" system and the first that wasn't a demanding crybaby.

[Dillen]

Curtis is only the second 1,000 receiver this team has had in the Andy Reid "spread it around" system and the first that wasn't black.

[Seabiscuit36]

Curtis is only the second 1,000 receiver this team has had in the Andy Reid "spread it around" system and the first that wasn't a whiney black.

[shorebird]

curtis has had the quietest 1000 yard season of all time and whatever numbers he has put up have made way less of an impact on the team than what stallworth did last year

btw shore i won this year

Yeah, but the Eagles could still tie in the division standings, right? Spilt the two division games, neither will win the division, and could tie for division record.

You generalize about Curtis. "curtis has had the quietest 1000 yard season of all time"? That is just the way that everyone who said Curtis wasn't very good, can't get open, and isn't as good as Stallworth justifies all the bad and wrong things they said about him. When he finally got a chance to be a 1 or 2 option in this league, he more than doubled his stats for any previous year. Any time a receiver has over a thousand yards on this team, it's anything but quiet. If it had been Reggie that had done it, who everyone was either hoping or expecting it from, you'd be singing a different tune. But when it's a guy like Curtis, who very few of us here thought would be productive, and all the so called brainiacs said was slow and couldn't get open does it, you try and justify your previous opinion by saying it was a "quiet 1,000 yards" and made less of an impact than Stallworth did.

As for your last statement about the impact either player had, the one year Stallworth played, he had 665 yards, a 15.5 yd. avg., 5 td's, with 43 recpts. in 12 games. Looking at that one can't help but think that Stallworth made more of an impact to this team with the four games he missed than when he played. If he had been healthy and played those four games, he might have come close to Curtis's numbers, but he didn't. The impact of him missing those four games was big.

[shorebird]

Curtis is only the second 1,000 receiver this team has had in the Andy Reid "spread it around" system and the first that wasn't black.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Take away the Detroit game, and Curtis's season was certainly somewhat pedestrian, especially for a #1 WR.

Still, you have to appreciate that he is able to catch some off-target bullets from Donovan and make some big plays.  Here's to hoping him and Brown make a nice 2/3 punch next year.

[MDS]

Fitzgerald, Curtis and Brown sounds good. Curtis, Brown and [young player Reid slobbers over even though everyone knows he's not good] does not.

[Diomedes]

Coles might shake loose.  I'd take him if Fitzgerald isn't available.

[Geowhizzer]

Coles might shake loose.  I'd take him if Fitzgerald isn't available.

I'd take either one.  Unfortunately, we all know that, more than likely, we'll all get coal in this particular stocking.

[shorebird]

Coles might shake loose.  I'd take him if Fitzgerald isn't available.

I'd take either one.  Unfortunately, we all know that, more than likely, we'll all get coal in this particular stocking.

No shtein. These late wins are pushing Reid out of a pick high enough to make it a good one without really having to be on target with your scouting and projection.

Take away the Detroit game, and Curtis's season was certainly somewhat pedestrian, especially for a #1 WR.

Still, you have to appreciate that he is able to catch some off-target bullets from Donovan and make some big plays.  Here's to hoping him and Brown make a nice 2/3 punch next year.

You can take the Detroit game away, or any game if thats the way you want to look at it. It's like saying take away your uncle's nuts, and he'd have been your aunt. Theres really no point to it.

And yeah, I appreciate his ability to make big plays, like when he hustled his ass off running downfield to block for his quarterback, out running the entire Saint's defense to recover that fumble in the endzone. He might not be TO, but he's the best wr on this team by far.

It's starting to look like this team isn't really that far away towards being a contender again if Ried and Co. don't screw up the offseason.