With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

[rjs246]

I can not envision a scenario where this team drafts a skill-position player in the first round. There are just too many glaring needs on defense and too much uncertainty with first round WRs.

I think that the only position I can honestly see them drafting is DE. It fits Andy's first round M.O., it is a glaring need and there is talent available at the position in the middle part of the first round.

I've been on the kick-returner bandwagon for several years, so Jackson sort of peaks my interest. The problem is that I was on that bandwagon simply because at the time I thought this team just needed a few pieces to the puzzle to make itself into a legit contender. I don't feel that way anymore. They need talent at too many positions to waste their first pick on a player who will only legitimately contribute for 5-6 plays per game.

What I'd like to see is for them to trade/sign/OVERPAY for a top flight WR like Fitzgerald. There's no reason to believe that will happen, but if it did, they would be free to draft for defensive talent and find a replacement for LJ Smith, which aside from finding a real WR, is the only immediate need that the offense has.

[Rome]

A Quarterback.

Luckily the Racists have Todd Collins...

[ice grillin you]

They need talent at too many positions to waste their first pick on a player who will only legitimately contribute for 5-6 plays per game.

jackson is a WR...he can be a great return man as well but the kick returning aspect is not why you take him that high...what it does tho is possibly prevent him from being a complete bust if he doesnt pan out as a wr

lots can happen of course btwn now and the draft but if i had to predict what they do it would be a OT...i think they know justice cant play and what the hell is going to happen when tra and runyan leave or get hurt

speaking of the offensive line they need to give jean gillies every opportunity to unseat herremans....its time to realize the herremans at guard project has failed and they need to knwo if mjg can play in the league as well as herremans possibly being a replacement at OT

[rjs246]

OL could be a possibility but from the team's perspective they have youth and flexibility there. Herremans has proven that he can play tackle. Justice is there and although he got dry humped against the Giants the talent is still there and they may give him a shot at the weak side. MJG is there to man the interior if necessary...

Anyway, I understand your line of thinking, but with so many defensive needs and so little defensive talent I think the OL players they have now will end up keeping the team from using their top pick there.

[ice grillin you]

OL could be a possibility but from the team's perspective they have youth and flexibility there. Herremans has proven that he can play tackle. Justice is there and although he got dry humped against the Giants the talent is still there and they may give him a shot at the weak side. MJG is there to man the interior if necessary...

Anyway, I understand your line of thinking, but with so many defensive needs and so little defensive talent I think the OL players they have now will end up keeping the team from using their top pick there.

not sure where i was when herremans proved he was an nfl caliber tackle...but ill believe you

im not even fully going by justices performance against the giants to determine he cant play...he looked really bad in training camp to me as well...of course the team knows way more about him than me having seen him day in and day out so hopefully im wrong but i dont see it in him

what you think the team thinks about the offensive line is what i think they think of the defense...i think they are fine with virtually the entire defense save safety...so i wouldnt expect as much attention towards that side of the ball as you might think...and to be honest on paper they have a point....the team has lost this year because they have scored less than 20 pts eight times...do i think the eagles need a influx of playmakers on defense....a resounding yes...do the eagles think that....not so sure

[rjs246]

I seem to remember Herremans standing in for Tra and doing very well, but he's only been given a handful of  opportunities so its far from a certainty. I haven't seen much of Justice since he was in college so I can't comment there.

I guess what I'm saying is that this team needs impact players on both sides of the field asap. And I don't think that they will find them for the offense in the draft.

All of this is moot, of course, because whoever they draft will suck enormous ass.

[reese125]

Two they should:

defense--safety

offense--OL

reality-they go neither position because they shock the hell out of us every year with their 1st pick

[Dillen]

I seem to remember Herremans standing in for Tra and doing very well, but he's only been given a handful of  opportunities so its far from a certainty.

It was in the wonder year of Mike McMahon. I think Herremans started 3 games at LT and then broke his leg.

[pinoyboy2pt0]

Not everything is stats, I was actually surprised our offensive point ranking is this high (although we are 25th in points if you completely remove the wtf game that was Detroit) and how bad our turnover D is currently.

                    Offense in 2004                  Offense in 2007
Points/Game    24.1ppg   (8th overall)       20.8ppg     (18th overall)


Our offense 3rd down conversion rate is surprisingly higher this year.  15th  (37%) in '04 vs  12th (42%) in '07

Part of the reason our 2nd overall defense (by points) in 2004 was bc our offense put up so many points, you forced the opposition to become one dimensional and pass the ball.  So I kinda think our int's and sacks are a little inflated bc we made the opposing offense so one dimensional.  But you are what you are, and you are what your record is.  That said, our D is top 10 in points.  So you have to give them some credit.  Although I'm not sure how much credit to give them.


                                    Our defense in '04                 Our defense in '07
                                    Ranking  Amount                   Ranking  Amount
Forced Fumbles                8            (29)                     32           (9)
INT's                              15           (17)                    32            (7)
Sacks                             2            (42)                     9            (32)
Points                             2         (16.2 ppg)               10         (20.2 ppg)


That's right.  We are dead farging last in ff's and int's.  We're top 10 in points, but we are dead farging last in turnovers.  Jesus christ, watch NE play, stand a ball carrier up and punch the farging ball out you farging Hoydas.  But are we only top 10 in points against bc our lineup this year has been, I think, the softest in years.  We are bitch slapped (ironically NE aside) when we play a team with some real talent.  Dallas shows us that.  We don't know what to do when we play them.  And when we are exposed, I feel that's our D that we truly have.  Not the D that plays vs the Jets, Dolphins, taterskins, Bears, etc.  We have trouble with Cooley/Witten/Plex.  Sometimes they may not show up on the stat sheet, but that last skins game we double and triple teamed Cooley and others took advantage (i.e. James farging Thrash).  But not only does this defense not rely on our offense, they also get on the field with absolutely horrible field position.  Be it our special teams after we score or a punt after our offense punts. 

But just think how much better our D could be (sacks, int's, points) if we could put a team away or force them to be one dimensional but just converting on offense.  I'm not talking about throwing bombs or getting Randy Moss, but just imagine converting our red zone attempts or 10% more on 3rd downs.  But seeing as how our offense can't score points, our defense has to handle the zesty field position and defend every possibility.   

ah farg it, I give up.  I think i just convinced myself to draft a DE and a DB in the first 2 rounds.

Although I am excited to see JJ play Gocong at DE (on some turf).  JJ didn't make an announcement or anything, but he's been sliding him there ever since the NE game.  Maybe we put him at DE and get a playmaker at LB.  Briggs / Dansby...who knows.  I wanted them to go after Rocky Benard a few years ago.  Go after Haynesworth this year.  I don't care if he's slighly retarded.  Let Dawk set him straight, "Patriotize" him or whatever they do.  Him and Bunk will set babies on fire.  Let "Patterson" become a 3rd down pass "specialist".    whomever/Haynesworth/Bunk/Cole.  I guarantee you opposing offenses are ours for the a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e raping if we have that.  That'll make Cole and our CB's even better.  It'll never happen though.

[methdeez]

David boston is only 29 years old.
Just sayin..

[rjs246]

In human years maybe.

[Sgt PSN]

That's like 49 in steroid years though.  His knees are more beat up than Wendell Davis'. 

[Sgt PSN]

I seem to remember Herremans standing in for Tra and doing very well,

So did Artis Hicks. 

[BigEd76]

Eagles fall to #15 with today's win and will drop to #16 if Washington loses

[BigEd76]

Eagles drop to #18