It's time for Reid to GO!!!!!!

Started by TexasEagle, September 09, 2007, 05:36:47 PM

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The BIGSTUD

Reid going is the #1 offseason need this team has. Far above any personnel moves.
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Quote from: FastFreddie on December 09, 2007, 08:35:44 PM
Donovan isn't exactly on-target either.  Don't make it sound like it's all the lame WR's fault.
yep...good ol' #5 is partly to blame.  he'll only throw the ball when a guy is WIDE open.  no anticipation or timing whatsoever.
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TexasEagle

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2007, 05:01:42 PM
Donovan is, and still should be beyond this season, the QB of this football team. Keep Kolb on ice ala Rodgers in GB.

McNabb is no Favre. GB has a reason to keep Rodgers in the wings... first, he's not that good and never was and Favre is a proven HOF QB that trusts his receivers to make plays and will take chances to win a game. McNabb does none of that and now, after all the injuries, is tentative and holds the ball even longer than normal. There's no reason to not see what Kolb can do in a game since the season's over for the Eagles. To not play him at all at this point is just stupidity or hubris on the part of Reid. They drafted him where they for a reason and that wasn't for him to ride the bench for years.

PhillyPhreak54

They shouldn't have even drafted him. But that's moot now, I guess.

I just don't think they should be in a rush to show 5 the door. I think its incredibly stupid to give up a QB of his caliber when you have big unknown.

Diomedes

I want Reid gone first but, if in some fantasy world that were to happen, I would expect immediate success from McNabb, or he can go.
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TexasEagle

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2007, 10:38:30 PM
They shouldn't have even drafted him. But that's moot now, I guess.

QFT

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 09, 2007, 10:38:30 PMI just don't think they should be in a rush to show 5 the door. I think its incredibly stupid to give up a QB of his caliber when you have big unknown.

It's less about being in a rush to get rid of a McNabb and more about finding and efficient and effective QB which McNabb hasn't been for a few years now. I DO think they should keep him but the caveat to that is that they'd need a whole new offensive system for him to play in because it's been proven that he can't play well in the one that Reid runs now.

The BIGSTUD

The marriage of Reid and McNabb is clearly over. If McNabb is going to stay, he needs a fresh new system to play under. Since they will never fire Reid, they need to start getting Kolb some reps once mathematically eliminated. If Kolb looks like he has something, and we can get really good value for McNabb then I say pull the trigger. I think we absolutely can get a first round pick for McNabb.

When the Vikings make the playoffs and get bounced early by a team focusing on stopping their run game and forcing Jackson to beat them, they will realize that a top notch QB can put them over the top. They will come calling for McNabb.

When the Ravens sit back and laugh at how they don't have one legit QB on their roster, they will come calling for McNabb. Same thing for the Chiefs as the Ravens. You know the Bears will be in the mix. Miami is always a possibility. They traded for Culpepper and Feeley.

There are going to be a good deal of teams all with heavy interest in McNabb, all bidding to acquire him. He is still respected as a top 8 QB in the NFL league-wide, and he'll be a full year recovered from his knee injury. The Eagles can get a damn good deal for him if the play their cards right.

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mussa

McNabb was never a 40 + passing QB and now after the injuries will never be. Reids offense won't work unless he has a QB who can throw 40+ a game. As long as you have decent receivers a 40+ passing QB will get it to them. We have the perfect running back for the system, but is constantly underused. We have the O-line.

So right then and there you can clearly say this team is going nowhere soon. Unless we draft a QB high next year, which I can't see happening with the Kolb pick. We're literally farged for years to come if Reid stays head coach. Will they hang onto Donovan and put him in the frying pan again and again. The poor guy was asked to do too much and its led to his injuries. I hate to say it, cause a loved McNabb, but if Reeds staying, McNabb needs to go. If Reid goes, and we get a balanced offense or run first offense(please god happen!), I think McNabb should stay until this Kolb person learns.


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Displaced

All this Donovan hate is hillarious.  The Eagles would be no where near a playoff game over the last six or seven years without him.  Reid and his dumbarse system would have been out the door years ago without Donovan. 

That man has covered a multitude of crap on this team. All this time he has had exactly one great WR, one half decent one and one good RB but the Rb is hardly used unless McNabb is out.

McNabb has gotten a raw deal just like other star Philly athletes before him.  It's like all these teams are only interested in having one star that is good enough to sucker all of into believing and buying tickets and merchandise.






rjs246

1. Donovan's psyche was not built for criticism. He doesn't respond well to it and he doesn't know how to use it to his advantage. That don't work in Philly.
2. Donovan and Andy Reid need to be broken up. They've been stink-palming each others' balls for so long that neither one can say an ill word about the other even when both are deserving. That common law marriage needs to be disbanded immediately.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

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Magical_Retard

i think besides mcnabb's rookie season and the early part of the 03 season i have never seen mcnabb look so bad. i mean i know the WRs are not worthy but i also have seen mcnabb make something out of worse WRs.

its just sad to watch because he is my favorite eagle. i just hope reid and company are smart enough to access if the mcnabb performance we have seen this season is due to the ACL alone or that he has seriously lost it.

i do not think he has lost it and think he needs 2 full yrs to recover plus some playmakers (even just 1) at the WR position.  i remember the mcnabb of last season and compared to this season the difference is night and day.

i just hope its the recovery from the knee injury. and if is not i hope reid makes the right decision.
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Eaglez

I dunno, Spadaro is starting to make the observation that the WRs just don't try and hard when McNabb is QB because they know McNabb probably won't find them.  And considering that is a statement against Spadaro's interest, I tend to think it has some truth to it. 

McNabb's bumbling around in the backfield doesn't work anymore.  He's not fast enough to buy time in the backfield laterally anymore and he refuses to take running lanes up the field.  Couple that with his inability to make quick decisions and you have the current mess. 

There is no aggressiveness when McNabb is QB -- and I'm not sure if that is by design or McNabb refusing to take risks more so now than in the past.  I'm thinking it is a combination of the two. 

MadMarchHare

I think that McNabb is sick of taking shtein from Eagles fans, and just doesn't try very hard anymore.

Whatever, who gives a shtein.  McNabb is done here, might as well figure out if Kolb can ever be the answer.
Anyone but Reid.

The BIGSTUD

Quote from: Displaced on December 10, 2007, 06:05:43 PM
All this Donovan hate is hillarious.  The Eagles would be no where near a playoff game over the last six or seven years without him.  Reid and his dumbarse system would have been out the door years ago without Donovan. 

That man has covered a multitude of crap on this team. All this time he has had exactly one great WR, one half decent one and one good RB but the Rb is hardly used unless McNabb is out.

McNabb has gotten a raw deal just like other star Philly athletes before him.  It's like all these teams are only interested in having one star that is good enough to sucker all of into believing and buying tickets and merchandise.


Did you forget Garcia in 06 and Feeley in 02?

This team has done well without McNabb.

I'm not a McNabb hater at all, but it's kinda funny how whenever someone defends him, they always bring up things he did in the past. What have you done for me lately? You say the receivers suck? I say Feeley did fine with them this year. Sure, Feeley threw INTs, but that was Feeley's fault. Not the WRs.

Joe Gibbs was a great coach once upon a time too. Those days are long and gone. So are the days of McNabb being an elite QB.

... at least in Philly anyway.
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Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

Phanatic

Reid will have to put together three truly bad seasons before management fires him mist likely. Like it or not. Let the suffering begin...
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