McNabb, Feeley, or Kolb

Started by Phillyiggles_fan, November 26, 2007, 08:12:50 AM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Playing Kolb right now has very little benefit.  It's a very difficult system.  More great QB's have come up slowly than those that have been rushed into action.  I also agree that the market value stuff is completely bogus.  You play the QB that gives your team the best chance to win the game as long as a playoff bid is possible.  Feeley had us briefly fooled, but he proved beyond doubt he is NOT that guy.

McNabb might have lost worse against the Patriots, but IMO, he would have beaten the Seahawks.

Feeley is a fine backup.  The team is not dead in the water with him under center.  But McNabb is still the guy you have to play if healthy.  Plus, he throws the ball to Westbrook more.

ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on December 03, 2007, 01:04:24 PM
Feeley had me briefly fooled, but he proved beyond doubt he is NOT that guy.

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PoopyfaceMcGee

For a guy who listens to WIP, you should know better than anyone I wasn't the only one.

reese125

AJ was barely if not at all in shotgun against NE

I have to think the only reason why they kept AJ in shotgun was because dropping back with a quick plant on that wet field would result in disaster. Which then should of lit a bulb off in Reids head that says, "hey--I wonder if the receivers can cut too?" I mean....did he not see receivers falling down all day long, and the running game working.

I understand sticking to the gameplan, but you have to adjust that gameplan when it comes to weather...bottom line

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ice grillin you

both teams played in the same conditions
both teams threw more than they passed
only one team had brian westbrook
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ice grillin you

also the the shotgun drives me crazy on running downs...particularly the first down play after westbrooks punt return...there was plenty of time for a run there and to tell the defense that it wasnt going to happen by going empty backfield shotgun formation was pathetic...maybe if you show possible run tatupu has to play closer to the line and cant cheat on the slant route....it just made no sense
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Dillen

I especially like the empty backfield shotgun first play of the game. I believe they've started shotgun the last 3 weeks or so.

mussa

i love how they describe the "system" as "difficult"

truth is the "system" sucks ass and is overrated. just like the people who designed it. it's time to clean shop. it starts with the coachs and then continue to the over paid washed up players.
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reese125

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 03, 2007, 03:08:20 PM
also the the shotgun drives me crazy on running downs...particularly the first down play after westbrooks punt return...there was plenty of time for a run there and to tell the defense that it wasnt going to happen by going empty backfield shotgun formation was pathetic...maybe if you show possible run tatupu has to play closer to the line and cant cheat on the slant route....it just made no sense

funny thing is when did Feely become an All-Pro where he could run the shotgun full-time. The QB's I see run that consistently are Brady and Favre  (4 or 5 receiver sets) now and Marino, McNair and Moon back in the day. It was apparent his timing and decisions were way off, and that could easily of been attributed to the shotgun--or the fact hes just not that good

PoopyfaceMcGee

Kolbsy was a shotgun player in college.  It's just the first step of tailoring the offense to his skills.

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Quote from: mussa on December 03, 2007, 03:43:23 PM
i love how they describe the "system" as "difficult"

truth is the "system" sucks ass and is overrated. just like the people who designed it. it's time to clean shop. it starts with the coachs and then continue to the over paid washed up players.

The system has won about 10 Super Bowls.  The system is fine.  The problem lies in the coaches who implement it and the sub-par talent (other than 36) who play in it.

ice grillin you

mongo think system good.....mongo know philosophy baaaaaaaaaaad
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Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on December 03, 2007, 03:08:20 PM
also the the shotgun drives me crazy on running downs...particularly the first down play after westbrooks punt return...there was plenty of time for a run there and to tell the defense that it wasnt going to happen by going empty backfield shotgun formation was pathetic...maybe if you show possible run tatupu has to play closer to the line and cant cheat on the slant route....it just made no sense

I was thinking the exact same thing.  Coming out in the shotgun after Westbrook's return made it painfully obvious that Andy had gone into full panic mode, thinking that he had to get into the end zone all on one play... which meant he might as well had benched Westbrook.  We saw three plays that Andy called... and none of them involved the guy who got them into the red zone to begin with and oh, by the way happens to be the best player on the team.  Why Andy continues to rely on the team's fringe players to win games is beyond me.  Put the farging ball in Westbrook's hands and live and die that way.
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ice grillin you

exactly....its amazing...he wasnt even in the game on first down...andy felt like with one minute left in your season giving your best player a spot on the sidelines was a good idea

feely deserves equal blame for again throwing that slant that seattle was sitting on all farging day.....coming into the game seattle was going to take that away and force feely to go downfield which is not his strength...they saw him throw it a bunch of times against new england...everyone did...yet the eagles kept going back to the well time after time

that last possession would have been a great spot to feint a slant and throw a fade to the corner
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NC_Eagle

Interesting take this week from Don Banks on the Eagle's QB 'controversy':

QuoteSo much for one quarterback controversy in Philadelphia: Feeley vs. injured starter Donovan McNabb. No one will be calling for Feeley to start again next week against the visiting Giants, no matter the status of McNabb's injuries.

Look for those fickle Eagles fans to instantly pivot and begin calling for rookie Kevin Kolb to start in place of McNabb.

IMHO:
Kolb - not ready yet, throwing him out there, particularly with Fat Farg calling the games and most likely having a rookie QB throw 35-40 times a game, would be throwing him to the wolves.  He may ultimately be a better West Coast QB than Donovan, but right now he's learning.

Feely - OK backup if you have nobody better, terrible starter.  >:(

McNabb - I'm not sure if his skills have degraded, or this year is a result of coming back from the knee, or F.F.'s 'play-calling'.  All I know is, if he is traded, I hope he goes to a team that actually game-plans to his skills, and he pulls a "Cunningham on the Vikings" or "Drew Brees with N.O." style comeback. (only Donovan is young enough to put in 4 or 5 good years, maybe more)
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