The observation thread

[reese125]

even back-ups have to have a good cover-up..cmon

[ice grillin you]

You guys are all farging hypocrites.  You're bashing Reid for being aggressive, after spending the last 5 years ripping him for playing conservative.

i cant recall one instance of someone bashing reid for being to conservative...i know i havent...if anything he isnt conservative enough...ie passing the ball 70 times a game instead of establishing a run offense

theres times for both the problem is reid usually does the wrong one at the wrong time...his lack of halftime adjustments are legendary but he also is unable to change during the game as well...for example pumping the brakes when he should have in the new england game...dont get it twisted im by no means blaming reid for the loss but you have to put a good amount of blame on him for that last call...the ne game imo was a mircocosm of why he wont ever win a superbowl

[Rome]

the ne game imo was a mircocosm of why he wont ever win a superbowl

Not to mention why New England has now won three and is well on its way to winning its fourth.

[SunMo]

you criticize based on what happened and what the situation dictates.  who cares what was said for the past 5 years?

[reese125]

Not to mention why New England has now won three and is well on its way to winning its fourth.

well Colvin is now out for the year and I think Gay got hurt as well. I was wondering when these guys would start having injuries. They have been lucky to escape it all year. Couple more on the defensive side, and these guys are not a lock to win it (but still a have a very high percentage with the offense alone).

Any more significant injuries, I dont think Bill goes for the perfect record and rests the starters

[ice grillin you]

their defense is irrelevant....its wasnt that good with colvin and isnt that good now...new england will not lose unless brady has an off game...you have to outscore new englands offense and it doesnt appear that anyone can do that

[reese125]

Defense is 5th in points, 3rd in total yards, 5th in rushing yards, 6th in passing yards. Not good? Very good. Thats why the debate over being the best team ever. Not just because of the offensive output.

I agree, Brady will have to be off, but that D better be on or GB or Dallas (IMO) will be right there with them.

[Eaglez]

their defense is irrelevant....its wasnt that good with colvin and isnt that good now...new england will not lose unless brady has an off game...you have to outscore new englands offense and it doesnt appear that anyone can do that

Technically, the Eagles offense did outscore the Patriots offense, it was just that Feeley gave the Patriots a 7 point advantage approximately a minute into the game.

I thought Feeley's arm strength was supposed to be really good? I thought the scouting report always said he had an above average arm.  But it seems now like he can't get it out of bounds when he wants to with any consistency, if he is to be believed with regards to what he was trying to do on those plays. 

[ice grillin you]

the defense has those numbers because the offense puts them up 31-0 in every game....playing in a division with the the jets dolphins and bills doesnt hurt...its an ok defense not a great one....in the end it isnt a factor in whether they win it all or not...if they keep averaging 40 pts a game it wont matter if the defense is 32 in the nfl

[reese125]

the defense has those numbers because the offense puts them up 31-0 in every game....playing in a division with the the jets dolphins and bills doesnt hurt...its an ok defense not a great one....in the end it isnt a factor in whether they win it all or not...if they keep averaging 40 pts a game it wont matter if the defense is 32 in the nfl

Your making my point IGY. The fact that the score is 31-0 is saying not only is the offense great, but the defense is posting a shut-out (exaggerated example obviously). After all those scores, they do give the ball back to Dallas, Cinci, Clev, etc. for a try

Id love to see a 5 receiver set SB battle of GB and NE

[ice grillin you]

the defense determines how much they win by...not whether they win or not

[Wingspan]

well cant be sure if reid told him to take that shot or if feeley decided on his own. its was just a bad play all around.

coaches dont tell the qb where to throw it...the coach makes a play call and the qb is supposed to throw it where the defense allows...this is where aj takes some of the fault...not checking down...but reid shouldnt have called a play where the first option was that throw...we arent talking about tom brady here...we are talking about a back up qb that had already made one horrendous mistake in the game...not to mention even if they hit that play brady comes right back down the field and wins the game...so not only was it a questionable play call but it was terrible clock management

You don't know who the primary guy was to begin with. Curtis could have been the 2nd option. We don't know.

[ice grillin you]

jaws and baldinger both said this week that the first option on that play was curtis...the design was to get him one on one outside for a big play

[Magical_Retard]

yeah and i doubt feeley was throwing the ball away. he had no pressure on him and unless he totally missed LJ or the other WRs he had no reason to throw it away.

it was not a last second desperation chuck trying to get it out of bounds.

anyway any word/update on who starts this weekend? i bet it will be feeley and if he does bad, mcnabb will be back in for the giants to be sacked 4-5 times.

[Feva]

the defense has those numbers because the offense puts them up 31-0 in every game....playing in a division with the the jets dolphins and bills doesnt hurt...its an ok defense not a great one....in the end it isnt a factor in whether they win it all or not...if they keep averaging 40 pts a game it wont matter if the defense is 32 in the nfl

Your making my point IGY. The fact that the score is 31-0 is saying not only is the offense great, but the defense is posting a shut-out (exaggerated example obviously). After all those scores, they do give the ball back to Dallas, Cinci, Clev, etc. for a try

Id love to see a 5 receiver set SB battle of GB and NE

Yeah, but the defense (and consequently, it's numbers/stats) usually has the luxury to dictate due to the sucess of the offense.  Not too many opposing O's, if any, have the ability to literally score on every possession like NE does.  In a number of games this year, NE's D has been pinning its ears back by mid-2nd quarter.  Most defenses have to worry about the running game for an entire 60 minutes.  The Pats' D has to worry about the run for the 1st half.  So, it's going to be near the top in run defense because teams have abandoned the run so much.  On the flip side... it'll be harder to pass against them when they can just rush the QB when they know the pass is coming.  Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 games all year where the Pats had to be concerned with the run (IND, DAL, PHI) for 60 minutes.  The rest were relative laughers.

It's obviously a good D, but it's numbers wouldn't be where they are if they weren't aided by an incredible offense that pared things down for them.