McNabb, Feeley, or Kolb

[Cerevant]

What I don't understand is why Andy refuses to see how much better his offense works (for better or for worse) when he has someone else in at QB.  I think McNabb is a talented QB, but he and Andy don't fit well together.

What struck me the most was while the commentators were talking about Feeley having time, what I saw was that he was taking his drop and throwing the ball on time, and getting rid of it instead of taking the sack.  Playing within the system.  Further, I saw him being a leader out there - talking to the players in the huddle and taking charge on the field.  McNabb just does not have that presence.

I do not think Feeley is the solution.  I just think he along with Garcia last year, stands out as an illustration of how McNabb isn't working in this offense.  Yes, this is likely AR's fault, and he could probably call a game better suited to McNabb, but he won't.  I think they both need to go, because the team has so much invested in these two they give them too much benefit of the doubt.

[Magical_Retard]

why is last season used to illustrate any points about mcnabbs bad play this year? yes he has always been inaccurate, even on top of his game he overhrows or to the feet at least 4-5 times a game. but i have not seen mcnabb look as in effective as he has looked this season so i have to assume its the combo of knee recovery + his shortcomings as a pocket passer.

but last season the offense was fine with him at the QB, cept 2 games where he was awful (tenn and jax).

people forget that garcia had the benefit of catching the giants and cowboys slumping down the stretch and playing the likes of carolina (a game the eagles almost blew anyway) and the falcons.

[Feva]

i really dont care who starts but i must laugh at all the people calling for feely to be the starter after he did last night exactly what people kill mcnabb for

Word.

[Magical_Retard]

i really dont care who starts but i must laugh at all the people calling for feely to be the starter after he did last night exactly what people kill mcnabb for

Word.

well he is the backup. backsups always get the benefit of doubt. they are supposed to suck. if they do anything positive its amazing and out of this world. nevermind the fact they are backups for a reason. feeley is not the first back up to come in and surprise ppl with decent play.

[ice grillin you]

good points cervant on feelys leadership and demeanor...mcnabb has the heart and leadership ability of a three year old...im quite certain had mcnabb thrown that opening interception it would have snowballed into a 70-7 loss due to him sulking and crying with a wet towel over his head

[phattymatty]

im quite certain had mcnabb thrown that opening interception it would have snowballed into a 70-7 loss due to him sulking and crying with a wet towel over his head

yes.

[Phanatic]

I've come around to the McNabb not working in this system point of view. Not sure what they could do to salvage his career in Philly or even if they want to. Feely seemed tired in the 4th and was underthrowing his receivers a bit. Then made some tired mistakes for interceptions. It is sad when we get a better performance out of a career back up QB though.

[pinoyboy2pt0]

If Reid could only call plays for Feeley like he does for McNabb, we'd be unstoppable!  Semi-kidding aside, I think McNabb's ACL is a huge problem and he went back to his old ways of throwing the ball entirely with his arm and now that his acl is coming back, he's gotta go back to throwing getting his feet underneath him. 

100% or not, McNabb doesn't have the intermediate touch.  So I wonder, if McNabb's "touch" is only 12 yard + routes, that's why Reid calls those 12 yard + routes.  Which in turn causes McNabb to hold the ball longer, get sacked (.5 his fault .5 his wr's aren't "open open"), get drilled, etc. 

You gotta admit though, most of the time when AJ was in, you weren't sure if they were passing it or running it.  Reid mixed up his usual pass, pass, pass, punt / pass, run, pass, punt play calling.  When Andy did go all pass happy, pass pro was unreal.  Reid put in a TE in most of the time and had his RB's chip, help out in pass pro, and have delayed routes - blocking first, 2 tights, bunch formations.  Is that the same kind of play calling you would expect for McNabb?  I mean, what are you more likely to see, AJ in under center with 2 te's, 2 wr's and Westbrook or McNabb in shotgun with 4 wr's and Westbrook?

That said, AJ puts the ball in a place where the WR's can catch it and catch it in stride.  One thing that popped out at me, and one of the biggest differences between him and McNabb IMO, is that he allows the receiver to make a play.  IMO McNabb only throws the ball when his receivers are "open open" whereas AJ would throw it when the guy was covered, challenging the WR/TE to make a play.  That said though, Reid called a great game last night and even though AJ made some great throws, some of the other ones he had his guys were wide open (seemed like it was mostly against NE zone). 

I also wonder when Reid fell head over heels with McNabb, he started calling these aggressive 10 yard + routes, slowly brainwashing McNabb from take what the defense gives you to go down field, be aggressive, make something happen and keep your eyes down field.  We've all seen it too many times, McNabb holding on the ball looking to make the big play...but is he just going with what his coach is telling him to do and doing the best he could with the zesty, obvious play calling?

bah.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Reid claims Eagles will hold out McNabb until he's 100%

That's hilarious, because he won't be 100% all season due to the ACL.  I also liked this:

"I think we're pretty fortunate we have two quarterbacks here that can play," Reid said.

Kolbsy?

[Wingspan]

Avant

[Don Ho]

Avant

pow! 

[Eaglez]

In a pass happy offense, Feeley throws a more consistent, catchable ball than McNabb does and gets the ball out quicker.  Plus, his leadership skills are arguably better. 

Feeley gives the Eagles a better chance of winning and being more competitive right now given McNabb's lackluster play all season.  I like Feeley's confidence and decisiveness; he may throw a boneheaded INT every once in a while, but his confident approach is refreshing and he has shown that he is not afraid to take his shots and trust his WRs and TEs to make a play -- unlike McNabb where a WR or TE has to be wide open for him to even attempt to complete the pass.  Some of those tight throws that Feeley threw yesterday McNabb would have never attempted.  He just would have gotten happy feet and then take a "coverage sack". 

If anything, Feeley will make the last 5 games of the season fun to watch, instead of watching McNabb throw worm burners, sail passes over receivers' heads, and throw bullets from 5 yards away, and, in the end, we all just pretty much want to be entertained given that this season is going nowhere fast (even though the last 5 games are all pretty much winnable outside maybe the Cowboys).

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Didn't see this posted anywhere, Adam Schefter by way of PFT:

POSTED 10:34 p.m. EST; UPDATED 11:25 p.m. EST, November 26, 2007

EAGLES PUT HIGH PRICE ON McNABB

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Philadelphia Eagles were contacted before the trade deadline regarding the availability of quarterback Donovan McNabb.

And the requested price was not one, not two, but three first-round draft picks.

Whether the price remains that high after the 2007 season remains to be seen.  If it is, McNabb won't be traded.

Our guess is that the Eagles are aiming high in the hopes of getting the most they can.  And, as the PFTV guys discuss below, the Eagles can't afford to appear interested in moving McNabb, or they'll have no leverage.

The smartest move for the Eagles, in our view, is to auction him off in the offseason, and to take the best deal they can get.

Wonder who the team was....

[Zanshin]

Vikings or Bears, I'd imagine.

[Father Demon]

Vikings.

My guess....