It's time for Reid to GO!!!!!!

[Cerevant]

Cowher floundered in Pittsburgh for 15 years before he won a super bowl.

stay off the crack

and hes not a diety...hes the best coach on the planet not in the league right now

Bill Cowher: 149 - 90 - 1 (0.623), Post season 12 - 9 (0.571)  SB: 1W, 1L, 2 appearances in 15 years (0.133)
Andy Reid: 80 - 49 - 0 (0.620), Post season  8 - 6 (0.571) SB: 0W, 1L, 1 appearance in 8 years (0.125)

Their records are virtually identical.  I don't like Andy either, but I lived in State College in '98 and heard the calls for Cowher's head.  The chin wasn't so popular back then.

[ice grillin you]

Cower lost and won a super bowl in his time in the AFC. What I like most is that his coaching style seems to lean towards good defense and a smash mouth running game.

more than that he can do simple things like call a game and manage a clock...get plays in on time...properly fill all the positions on a roster

hes not bill walsh by any means but hes an excellent coach...far superior to reid tho that isnt saying much

and also while he hasnt been a gm hes a good talent evaluator especially on defense

[Cerevant]

hes not bill walsh by any means but hes an excellent coach...far superior to reid tho that isnt saying much

You keep saying that, but where is the evidence of that?  What has Cowher done that Andy hasn't done besides win the super bowl?  What had Cowher done in his first 7 years that Andy hasn't already done?

[SunMo]

What has Cowher done that Andy hasn't done besides win the super bowl? 

oh...only besides that tiny little detail?

[Cerevant]

Ok, well give Andy another 8 years and he might luck out and deliver too.

[rjs246]

Cower lost and won a super bowl in his time in the AFC. What I like most is that his coaching style seems to lean towards good defense and a smash mouth running game.

more than that he can do simple things like call a game and manage a clock...get plays in on time...properly fill all the positions on a roster

hes not bill walsh by any means but hes an excellent coach...far superior to reid tho that isnt saying much

and also while he hasnt been a gm hes a good talent evaluator especially on defense

I agree with all of this. Anyone who thinks that Cowher and Reid are comparable as coaches needs to have their farging head examined.

[SunMo]

Ok, well give Andy another 8 years and he might luck out and deliver too.

just totally ignore that Andy Reid has played in the weakest conference and division since he's been there, that should help your cause

[Rome]

Reid's contract runs out at the end of the 2010 season. 

I don't think I can take another four years of "time's yours" from that motherfarger.

I would ejaculate thrice if Cowher was brought in.  He'd be ideal for Philly fans but I don't think he's Banner & Lurie's dream date, plus they'd have to hijack Fort Knox to get him there.  And we all know how much Lurie & Banner love to spend money.

Isn't Andy Reid one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL?

I was referring to having to pay Reid if they fire him plus someone else like Cowher.   The Eagles don't like paying one guy let alone two. 

[Wingspan]

Ok, well give Andy another 8 years and he might luck out and deliver too.

just totally ignore that Andy Reid has played in the weakest conference and division since he's been there, that should help your cause

Um...the Steelers were in a division with Cleveland and Cinncinnati, Oilers and Expansion Jaguars for most of cowhers time. Not exactly stellar competition.

[ice grillin you]

Cowher floundered in Pittsburgh for 15 years before he won a super bowl.

stay off the crack

and hes not a diety...hes the best coach on the planet not in the league right now

Bill Cowher: 149 - 90 - 1 (0.623), Post season 12 - 9 (0.571)  SB: 1W, 1L, 2 appearances in 15 years (0.133)
Andy Reid: 80 - 49 - 0 (0.620), Post season  8 - 6 (0.571) SB: 0W, 1L, 1 appearance in 8 years (0.125)

Their records are virtually identical.  I don't like Andy either, but I lived in State College in '98 and heard the calls for Cowher's head.  The chin wasn't so popular back then.

lets see andy keep that record up for another seven years...not gonna happen...lets see andy win a superbowl...not gonna happen...in 8 years andy has two sub .500 years in 15 cowher had three

anyway i was never comparing reid and cowher i was laughing at you saying that cowher "floundered" for 15 years

[Cerevant]

just totally ignore that Andy Reid has played in the weakest conference and division since he's been there, that should help your cause

Ok, and you can ignore that Cowher coached in the weak AFC back when SF & Dallas were manhandling the rest of the league.

[Cerevant]

anyway i was never comparing reid and cowher i was laughing at you saying that cowher "floundered" for 15 years

Yes, slight hyperbole, but my point was that the prevailing attitude here is No SB = Failure.  By those terms, Cowher was a failure for 13 years.

I'm not saying Reid is a great coach, I just don't think Cowher is all that.  You are just seeing him through SB colored glasses.  Even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

[ice grillin you]

like rjs said you cant watch each of these guys coach a game and think they are in the same league as football coach...ill submit andy is better when it comes to organization and preperation...he may be the best at that...but id rather have a guy that is competant once the whistle blows and all kinds of variables come into play that require you changing on the fly and adapting to different situations...something andy is woefully bad at...because after all that is what most of coaching is made up of

[Cerevant]

It is clear that their abilities are apples and oranges, but the bottom line is the difference in their talents has not translated to a difference in production.  There is no reason to believe that bringing Cowher to the Eagles would make them any more likely to win a Super Bowl.

Does Andy need to go?  Yes
Could another coach do better with this team? Possibly
Could another coach suck worse than Andy?  Probably

Head coaching changes rarely result in significant improvement in the results of a team.  Probably about half the time it makes things worse.

[ice grillin you]

but my point was that the prevailing attitude here is No SB = Failure.  By those terms, Cowher was a failure for 13 years.

I'm not saying Reid is a great coach, I just don't think Cowher is all that.  You are just seeing him through SB colored glasses.  Even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

my problem with reid is not that he hasnt won a superbowl in a general sense but that his teams have gotten close so many times and he cant close the deal due to his deficiencies

only one team wins the superbowl every year...winning a superbowl does not make a good coach and not all coaches that win superbowls are automatically great...but bad coaches do not win sb's

i look much more at
in game coaching
adjustments
how they relate to their players
talent evaluation
overall philosphy

and in all those categories cowher wins out over reid...PLUS hes won a superbowl