Government is Good

Started by Diomedes, August 02, 2007, 10:02:40 PM

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Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Diomedes

an example:


NYT editorial
Quote
In Praise of Tap Water

On the streets of New York or Denver or San Mateo this summer, it seems the telltale cap of a water bottle is sticking out of every other satchel. Americans are increasingly thirsty for what is billed as the healthiest, and often most expensive, water on the grocery shelf. But this country has some of the best public water supplies in the world. Instead of consuming four billion gallons of water a year in individual-sized bottles, we need to start thinking about what all those bottles are doing to the planet's health.

Here are the hard, dry facts: Yes, drinking water is a good thing, far better than buying soft drinks, or liquid candy, as nutritionists like to call it. And almost all municipal water in America is so good that nobody needs to import a single bottle from Italy or France or the Fiji Islands. Meanwhile, if you choose to get your recommended eight glasses a day from bottled water, you could spend up to $1,400 annually. The same amount of tap water would cost about 49 cents.

Next, there's the environment. Water bottles, like other containers, are made from natural gas and petroleum. The Earth Policy Institute in Washington has estimated that it takes about 1.5 million barrels of oil to make the water bottles Americans use each year. That could fuel 100,000 cars a year instead. And, only about 23 percent of those bottles are recycled, in part because water bottles are often not included in local redemption plans that accept beer and soda cans. Add in the substantial amount of fuel used in transporting water, which is extremely heavy, and the impact on the environment is anything but refreshing.

Tap water may now be the equal of bottled water, but that could change. The more the wealthy opt out of drinking tap water, the less political support there will be for investing in maintaining America's public water supply. That would be a serious loss. Access to cheap, clean water is basic to the nation's health.

Some local governments have begun to fight back. Earlier this summer, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom prohibited his city's departments and agencies from buying bottled water, noting that San Francisco water is "some of the most pristine on the planet." Salt Lake City has issued a similar decree, and New York City recently began an advertising campaign that touted its water as "clean," "zero sugar" and even "stain free."

The real change, though, will come when millions of ordinary consumers realize that they can save money, and save the planet, by turning in their water bottles and turning on the tap.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Diomedes

more to follow over the years...
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

rjs246

Personally, I love the government's sense of entitlement. Why shouldn't they feel free to spy on me and tax the shtein out of me and pass laws to limit my decisions about my own life? I mean, after all, they do protect me from the dangerous Mexicans and Canadians who are constantly threatening my ability to live peacefully.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SunMo

i think i speak for all of us raped by Canadians when i say i don't appreciate your breezy attitude towards them
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

rjs246

I apologize. Snow Mexicans, dude. Snow Mexicans.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Diomedes

Quote from: rjs246 on August 02, 2007, 10:14:13 PM
Personally, I love the government's sense of entitlement. Why shouldn't they feel free to spy on me and tax the shtein out of me and pass laws to limit my decisions about my own life? I mean, after all, they do protect me from the dangerous Mexicans and Canadians who are constantly threatening my ability to live peacefully.

no silly, not that government
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Eaglez

I don't think anyone is debating that government is needed for an orderly and civilized society, it is just a matter of what the legitimate scope of that government should be, primarily based upon the values held by the electorate. There is where all the fundamental disagreements lie.


Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Susquehanna Birder

Quote from: Eaglez on August 02, 2007, 10:41:07 PM
I don't think anyone is debating that government is needed for an orderly and civilized society, it is just a matter of what the legitimate scope of that government should be, primarily based upon the values held by the electorate. There is where all the fundamental disagreements lie.



You obviously need to drink more.

PoopyfaceMcGee

I have mixed feelings about the government.

Negative example:  Who was in charge of checking that bridge in Minnesota most recently?  How many taxes did they collect for that super inspection?

Negative example:  IRS


Ok, basically if the government didn't waste a shteinload of tax money and collected it more efficiently, they'd be good.  However, they suck at many levels are are ridiculously inefficient.

ice grillin you

omg theres good AND bad things about the government???
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

No, I was just kidding.  Everything about it is awesome all the time, especially you.  Holla.