The 2007 Offseason Thread

Started by The BIGSTUD, January 14, 2007, 03:00:22 AM

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Geowhizzer

Quote from: phattymatty on July 17, 2007, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: shorebird on July 16, 2007, 10:36:56 PM
The press will be on him like butter on the cobb.

horrible.

Yeah, horrible.

It should have been "butter on the Kolb."  :paranoid

shorebird

Quote from: mussa on July 17, 2007, 12:14:30 PM
just trade mcnabb. hes worthless. lets put feely in. he can handle 45-50 pass attempts per game. its not the playcalling. the opposing teams have no idea either, its a secret. hell of a gameplan. go eagles. championship.

Interesting. If he was really on the trading block, would there be any team ready to give up a first rounder for him? Certainly not now, but if he stays healthy and plays well all year? The Eagles just drafted a qb in the first round, he will start at some point and time. If not out of nessecity this year, then he'll get his chance next year. I like Feeley, but you have to think he's nothing but a buffer between Kolb and McNabb.

If you want to talk serious about trading McNabb, you better damn site hope he has an injury free year if you want to get anything for him after extending him what, two years ago?? If he gets hurt this year with another major injury, his value is five and dime. Any team could pick him up on waivers if he doesn't retire. If he has a decent year, Ried can stay on track with any schedule he has with Kolb, and we hopfully make the playoffs. This is one of the few years recently were the latter is about all we can really hope for.

Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 17, 2007, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on July 17, 2007, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: shorebird on July 16, 2007, 10:36:56 PM
The press will be on him like butter on the cobb.

horrible.

Yeah, horrible.

No one around here ever has appreciated my sense of humor. I was trying to talk some goddamn football here instead of the usual porno goth up the ass your mother stuff. Instead, you guys attack my lame attempt at humor. God, I'll be glad when training camp starts. This offseason has sucked.

I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the way we went out. We might as well have walked of the field and not even lined up for those last two plays. That shtein, and the fact that our franchise qb is a big fat ? has been eating at my gut all offseason.

I'd like to hear honest opinions from everyone on what they think the percentages are pertaining to Dmac not getting injured this year. I'm saying 50-50. I want to see him come back and play the way I know he can, I'm praying for it. But this year, I don't have that feeling that he'll play at the pro-bowl form we've seen before, much less for a whole season. I hope he proves me wrong.





ice grillin you

what they think the percentages are pertaining to Dmac not getting injured this year. I'm saying 50-50.


it would be 50-50 if his knee didnt explode last year
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shorebird

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 17, 2007, 04:43:20 PM
what they think the percentages are pertaining to Dmac not getting injured this year. I'm saying 50-50.


it would be 50-50 if his knee didnt explode last year

So your saying it's a 75% chance he gets injured? ouch.

Diomedes

why even bother trying to play?  he might as well just quit and hand the reins over to Kolb
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Geowhizzer

Shorebird,

I just replied to your lame attempt at humor with an even lamer one.

Hint:  Look at the small print.

Geowhizzer

By the way, I'd give McNabb's chances of lasting the season without a serious injury (missing more than 2 games) at about 30-40%.

shorebird

Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 17, 2007, 06:31:00 PM
Shorebird,

I just replied to your lame attempt at humor with an even lamer one.

Hint:  Look at the small print.

I totally missed that one.


shorebird

Quote from: Diomedes on July 17, 2007, 06:22:36 PM
why even bother trying to play?  he might as well just quit and hand the reins over to Kolb

McNabb has never quit. He won't now. He's going to come out like gangbusters, just like last year and the year before. I just hope he can keep it going for a full season. At the best, one would think that he won't be quite as mobile, but still  dangerous.

One of the things that I feel must happen is Reid being commited more to the running game like he was when Garcia was in. That alone would help towards McNabb having an injury free season. farging hard headed Andy Ried can't be that farging dumb not to have seen the difference in the offense. And don't even try and tell me that the offense played well because of Garcia and his great leadership and attitude. Bullcrap. I'd love to see Dmac running an offense with the same gameplan as Garcia had last year. Ried depends way too much on McNabb's arm.


Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ice grillin you

So your saying it's a 75% chance he gets injured? ouch.

100% > 1 game
75% > 2-4 games
40% > 8 games

keep in mind tho that im not totally convinced he will even start the season...so they may not deem him ready for game action until say week 3 for example...so that would be two games missed before he even takes a snap
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igy gettin it done like warrick

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methdeez

Football outsiders (a website I highly endorse) ranks the Iggs WR's:
Quote21. Philadelphia (28)

Andy Reid just doesn't put a significant amount of emphasis or effort into collecting wide receivers; he generally spends his money elsewhere, and understands that his offensive scheme makes wide receivers relatively fungible. This year, things are a little different. Reggie Brown (22nd in DPAR and 18th in DVOA) is rounding into a top receiver, and could end up making the same jump Lee Evans made last year. Kevin Curtis is a free agent signing by a team that almost never misses on their free agent signings, and a player who fits the West Coast offense very well. Jason Avant, Greg Lewis and Hank Baskett are the generic little-used high-percentage guys in reserve, and hey, Todd Pinkston's freely-available talent now. This isn't a fantastic group of receivers, but they get the job done.

The taterskins ranking, just for fun:

22. Washington (13)
Quote   If you could have given us our pick of every wide receiver who was acquired through trade or as a free agent following 2005, the last two guys we would have chosen would have been Brandon Lloyd (-16.9 percent DVOA, good for 82nd in the league in 2005) and Antwaan Randle El (-15.1 percent DVOA, 77th in 2005). Shockingly, they did not get better upon arriving in Washington. While Randle El is at least an excellent return man, Lloyd is a locker room malcontent and a possession receiver with the skill-set of a CBA-level rapper; namely, he's tall-ish. Lloyd and Randle El were both awful last year, and there's no reason to think they'll be good in the future.

This should not reflect poorly on Santana Moss or Chris Cooley, both of whom were very good in 2006. Unfortunately for Moss, the lack of concern defenses needed to push toward the other wideouts meant he was double-covered more often than not; merely having an average receiver across from him would free up space for the long game to develop. By the time Washington realizes it, though, Moss' peak as a small, speedy receiver might be past.


ice grillin you

Kevin Curtis is a free agent signing by a team that almost never misses on their free agent signings



i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Dillen

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 18, 2007, 02:53:48 PM
Kevin Curtis is a free agent signing by a team that almost never misses on their free agent signings
How many signings that are actually notable have they missed? Don't count guys like Jabar Gaffney and Ed Jasper. I know they miss sometimes, every team does, but there hasn't been anything that greatly hurt the team. There hasn't been a lot of total misses, although you could say Kearse and Howard aren't living up to expectations. Kearse finally had a good line with him last year and had a great start, but he got hurt. Howard only had like 6 sacks but played pretty well against the run and was constantly dinged up.

Try and name some big misses as of late. I can't come up with any, but I really didn't think about it much either.

SunMo

there aren't many high profile misses because they don't make many high profile signings in general.  i would say Kearse hasn't lived up to his contract in general, Dhani Jones was a miss obviously.  In general they pick up depth guys in free agency that don't make or break a season so it's hard to call them hits or misses.
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