U.S. Iraq war casualties reach new milestone

[ice grillin you]

not that at any time i would have ever voted for either one but its sad (and scary) how much the base of the republican party changes what were once pretty moderate/independant guys like rudy and mccain into shells of their former selves

the power of the christian fundementalists is all that

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Mainstream politics changes people on both sides of the aisle to shells of their former selves.  Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are basically the only two candidates somewhat in the race that are sticking to their guns.

[ice grillin you]

nothing compares tho to the extreme changes that the republican base causes in people

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'll agree because I probably hate the direction of the Republican party more than you anyway.

[ice grillin you]

the main difference is that on the left you cant be a true liberal anymore...so they all sellout and move towards the middle...where as on the right they all move towards their base not away from it

and we all know what the pubs base has become

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, the platform starts with sex with underage page boys and removal of personal liberties and goes from there.

[SD_Eagle5]

hes one of the biggest frauds ever

Agree completely.  There is no way I would place a vote for Giuliani.

I can't stand him

[Rome]

A bit paranoid and loony but an interesting read none the less...

http://sonic.net/~doretk/Issues/01-09%20FALL/theprofitability.html

(It's a bit long too.  Be forewarned.)

[ice grillin you]

killing the undesireables is a national pastime

[Rome]

The point of that article is killing everyone a bit prematurely is good for business.

Like I said... wacky but interesting.

[rjs246]

the main difference is that on the left you cant be a true liberal anymore...so they all sellout and move towards the middle...where as on the right they all move towards their base not away from it

What is a 'true liberal'? Someone who thinks that people can't take care of themselves and that the government should be tasked with caring for everyone.

What is a 'true conservative'? Someone who thinks that the government should have absolutely no responsibility for taking care of the well-being of its citizens.

Do either of those stances make any sense to anyone? Why would anyone want to stand behind either of those? The less 'true liberals' and 'true conservatives' we have, the better.

[Phanatic]

the main difference is that on the left you cant be a true liberal anymore...so they all sellout and move towards the middle...where as on the right they all move towards their base not away from it

What is a 'true liberal'? Someone who thinks that people can't take care of themselves and that the government should be tasked with caring for everyone.

What is a 'true conservative'? Someone who thinks that the government should have absolutely no responsibility for taking care of the well-being of its citizens.

Do either of those stances make any sense to anyone? Why would anyone want to stand behind either of those? The less 'true liberals' and 'true conservatives' we have, the better.

Those descriptions are how the define each other not themselves. I always find it frustrating that politicos extrapolate an opposing policy idea to the worst possible outcome to indicate what said candidate stands for.

If your pro choice your for killing babies
If your for any government social program at all your for free handouts

Blah Blah Blah...

[Magical_Retard]

Guiliani is a fear mongering jack ass. Ron Paul owned him so bad its not even funny but too bad ppl think Ron Paul is the crazy one.

[Phanatic]

I heard the GOP base extrapolating Ron Paul's stance on abortion to say that he is pro choice when actually he isn't. He's just for states rights no matter what the issue.

[Cerevant]

I think I'd rather have a few pro-life states than risk handing control of the entire country to the religious right.