Sixers 2007 Off Season Thread

[ice grillin you]

tony dileo on with macnow last night said "better than 50/50" that the sixers trade up in the draft

[Feva]

Kobe without Shaq is a farging nobody.

He's not even a top 50 player in the NBA right now.

Jesus.

You are a farging vegetable.  Or at least you would be if you improved your IQ about 50 points.


I mean, the cat was already out of the bag about how mind-numbingly stupid you are... but you continue to amaze.  Bravo.

[Dillen]

tony dileo on with macnow last night said "better than 50/50" that the sixers trade up in the draft

I wouldn't count on it. King said he thinks it would cost too much to trade up to a spot that is actually worth trading up for, like in the top 7 or so.

You are a farging vegetable.

[MDS]

tony dileo on with macnow last night said "better than 50/50" that the sixers trade up in the draft

al horford do it

[ice grillin you]

id love horford but how do they get up that high without having to give up iguodala....no way picks and sammy get you there do they?

with horford most likely out of reach i hope they are looking at conley

[SD_Eagle5]

Atlanta holds the 3rd pick and wants a point guard, King joked about trading Miller and #12 for that pick. This is what ensued:
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Marc Narducci -

Sixers Looking At Moving Up

Now it appears as if the 76ers have changed their tune (or at least their public stance) and will try to move up for a pick higher than No. 12 in Thursday's draft.

President and general manager Billy King says the Sixers are looking at that option and that there are viable possibilities.

King stopped after that, so it's now up to our imagination to see where the Sixers could move up.

It's no secret that Atlanta with the third and 11th pick is looking to make a trade. Atlanta needs a point guard and King himself said there was a rumor that the Sixers would trade Andre Miller and the No. 12 pick for the No. 3 selection.

King laughed it off, but actually it's a trade from the Hawks perspective that makes a lot of sense. Atlanta could do much worse than having Miller at the point, but from this vantage point, the Sixers would need more than just the No. 3 pick in return.
The problem with the Sixers situation is that unless they are willing to deal Miller, they have very few other tradable assets, especially since they refuse to part with Andre Iguodala.

A team that is looking to deal its pick is Boston at No. 5, but again, the Sixers don't match up well with the Celtics. Milwaukee at No. 6 doesn't seem inclined to deal. Minnesota, once again deep into Kevin Garnett trade rumors, would possibly part with the choice, but would the Wolves want the Sixers' No. 12 and 21 pick for No. 7? That might be too steep for the Sixers, unless there is somebody at No. 7 they absolutely see as an impact player. Yet as one source said, Minnesota can't worry about swapping picks until they explore all options with Garnett.

Charlotte at No. 8 might be interested in trading the pick, according to sources, but the Bobcats, who also have the 22nd choice in the first round, are always looking for some payroll relief. Charlotte's Gerald Wallace can opt out of his contract and shooting guard Matt Carroll of Hatboro-Horsham is a free agent.

Maybe the Bobcats wouldn't mind trading down for some extra picks. If the Sixers offered No. 12 and No. 30 for No. 8, that probably wouldn't get it done, but could be a starting point.

Chicago at No. 9 would be another potential suitor for the Sixers, but a source familiar with the Bulls situation says they are right now bogged down in the Garnett and Kobe Bryant trade rumors and have not believed to have talked to the Sixers as of yet.

Chicago is looking for more of a veteran presence, but the Bulls appear to like two of the players that the Sixers have targeted – Georgetown forward Jeff Green and Chinese power forward Yi Jianlian.

If Chicago is involved, the Sixers would likely have to swap picks and add a No. 1 or No. 2 pick in the future. Chicago doesn't need any more young players now. Since the Chicago and the Sixers swapped picks last year in the first round, it can't be discounted.

Sacramento at No. 10 would likely only swap with the Sixers if the Kings knew that they could get a player they really wanted at No. 12.

It seems the most realistic options for the Sixers would be Atlanta, Minnesota and Charlotte, but anything is possible in what should be a wild draft.

The Sixers could stand pat and make settle for somebody such as Florida State forward Al Thornton, which would be a boost to the offense and not much of one to the defense. Or the Sixers could roll the dice and look to move up if they truly feel there is an impact player.

In this draft, they have to get somebody who will be a significant rotation player in the 2007-2008 season. It appears as if the Sixers are beginning to believe that person doesn't exist at the No. 12 pick.

Personally I'd give up our entire draft + Miller for Horford.

[ice grillin you]

Personally I'd give up our entire draft + Miller for Horford.

id do it in a heartbeat...the picks other than 12 mean little and miller for horford is a no brainer

[MDS]

yea id do it. then use some freed up money and sign chancy billups? hes out there now. alls you gotta do is backload his contract to the next few years. this coming season, the sixers still owe aaron mckie and chris webber over $20 million.

[BigEd76]

There's no freed up money for free agents since they're still over the cap

[hunt]

Personally I'd give up our entire draft + Miller for Horford.

yep...but i doubt atl would do it.  if atl is smart, they'll come out of this draft with horford & a pg like crittenton or law.

[SD_Eagle5]

Its not like they're winning the title this year, let Louis Williams play the point. If he does good, great, if he sucks they'll have cap space to sign another PG.

[hunt]

i'm on board but i don't think atl would give up #3 for miller...he's just not good enough, imo.

anyway, here's a blurb from nbadraft.net:

Philadelphia 76ers (12, 21, 30, 38)

How they could win: Due to their excessive amount of picks, the Sixers will be able to add some potential at every single position. The Sixers will likely have a shot at either Florida State's Al Thornton and Washington's Spencer Hawes with their first pick (12th). Their second selection (21st) will come down to another big man- possibly Duke's Josh McRoberts or Brazil's Tiago Splitter. With the last pick in the first round, Philly will hope a talented point guard, such as Oregon's Aaron Brooks or Nevada's Ramon Sessions will be on the board. They could go anywhere with their last selection (38th), but likely will continue to attempt to upgrade the frontcourt by drafting Pittsburgh C Aaron Gray, or Purdue PF Carl Landry.

How they could win big: There probably won't be any takers if Philly tries to trade up for a stud such as Al Horford. The best case scenario on draft night would be for the Sixers to get great value on all their picks. A draft consisting of Thornton, Rodney Stuckey/Acie Law, McRoberts, and Marcus Williams would be an example of that.

How they could lose: The Sixers will be in a precarious situation in the late first round because the best available players will mostly be small forwards/shooting guards, a positions that Philly is more than set at with Andre Iguodala, Rodney Carney, and Kyle Korver. They could end up reaching for big men with those picks, or even worse, draft a swingman that will never get any playing time.

[ice grillin you]

they arent getting horford in that deal unless atlanta is the dumbest team in the history of sports

were they to trade for just miller
in two years when miller was on his last legs in the league
the hawks would be right back to where they are now
no point guard and a bunch of young kids who dont know how to play

now if other players are involved thats different but atl aint trading #3 for miller and #12

[ice grillin you]

someone might wanna let draftnet know that the sixers cant take three american college in round one because of contract issues...the number 30 pick will almost 100% be traded or a euro who will come over in a couple years

[MDS]

There's no freed up money for free agents since they're still over the cap

still? yikes. even if they hypothetically trade miller in this made up deal?