Fair Shot For McNabb In Philly?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The only way to truly give McNabb a fair shake would obviously be to get Keyshawn Johnson.

[Magical_Retard]

I think the key is they have to protect him.  They have to develop the kind of offense the Broncos had at the end with Elway.  The offensive line they have can do the job if that is the mentality they have from the outset.  They have to establish it right from the first minicamp and carry it through.  I am not saying they don't use the quick strike they had last year but they need to run some teams down and beat them up a little, on both sides of the ball but especially on offense.

i agree with you but was last yrs knee injury even a protection issue? he seemd to have torn it on a routine play and wasnt even hit hard.

my main concern with mcnabb is that we over use him in the sense we ask him to pass too much.

we have westbrook, buckhalter, and hunt now and while the first 2 arent role models of "healthy" i think we have capable bodies to run at least 30 times a game with westbrook getting the bulk of the carries.

[PhillyPhreak54]

GCobb on the stupid media firestorm that once again is surrounding Donovan;

I talked to a source close to Donovan McNabb yesterday and a member of the Philadelphia Eagles PR staff and they both said McNabb is busy working out and refusing to get caught up in another mole hill being turned into a mountain by the local sports media. They said he's not seething about the Eagles picking Kevin Kolb with their first pick, like was reported by Comcast Sportsnet. Some of the things I've learned about McNabb's coming and going this weekend and on Monday and Tuesday have made me wonder if this episode is a case of one hand not knowing what the other was doing.

Andy Reid says he called Donovan McNabb after making the pick of Houston quarterback Kevin Kolb and left a message because he was unable to get in touch with him. Les Bowen of the Philly.com reports that Reid and McNabb finally caught up with each other on Tuesday. You'd think by putting these two stories together that Reid was trying to get in touch with the veteran quarterback and McNabb was avoiding the coach, but that's not the case. I've learned that Donovan was working out under the guidance of Eagles personnel on Saturday when the Eagles made the pick of Kolb. He was at the Eagles Nova Care facility on Monday working out again. I don't see how Andy Reid couldn't have spoken to him if he wanted to do so, on Saturday or on Monday. The Nova Care Complex is big but it isn't that big. Bowen reports Andy finally talked to Donovan on Tuesday.

I don't think Reid tried that hard to get in touch with McNabb because he didn't think it was that big a deal. He just wanted to leave a message as a minor gesture, so they would be on the same page about them grabbing a young QB early in the draft. But we know that everything concerning Donovan here in Philly, is made to seem to be sinister and contrived. If McNabb is working out under the supervision of Philadelphia Eagles personnel, then you'd figure that Andy Reid should know that or be able to find that out. As I said yesterday, Donovan isn't hiding out anywhere and he hasn't been out on the run like a fugitive, the way some would have to believe. Here you have another case of the local sports media creating a big mountain out of nothing. That's why I kind of understand McNabb's reluctance to play along with the game.

After listening to and reading all the Philly nonsense, you'd think McNabb was avoiding seeing the coach but he's obviously not if he is working out every day at the Nova Care Complex under the guidance of the Birds training staff. The Eagles have a mini-camp coming up on May 12th and I know McNabb will be there watching and probably talk to the media during that weekend. But that's not good enough for our local sports media because they want him to play into all these media-created episodes and come running out to respond each time there's some nonsense started. The media wants to be able to dictate when he talks. I've learned that Donovan refuses to let all the speculating and rumor creating dominate his thinking because he knows he's got to focus on getting back to full strength. If he doesn't get ready to play then that would be a serious issue. What do you think McNabb should do? Should he bow down to the local sports media and answer every rumor and speculation? Or shoud he focus on recovering from an ACL tear and get ready to play football?

If Donovan were to come out and speak now or were to have called a news conference or have put out a statement, would that stop people from speculating and putting words in his mouth. The guy can't win for losing here in Philly because just as soon as he says something, all of the local sports media, now-turned psychologists will start to pick apart his every word, and every blink of the eye.

[Feva]

How mentally weak of McNabb to not come out and talk about this.


Let me just save a lot of folks the trouble and say "Waaaaaaaaahhhhh" for those who'll no doubt still go on thinking that McNabb is all pissy over the Kolb pick.

[ice grillin you]

whether hes pissy or not...and im pretty sure he is...he needs to come out and make a statement...yeah the media is nuts over the eagles in this town but as a player you gotta know this...so come out and give a couple interviews saying youre not worried about it and you look forward to tutoring young kolb ect ect ect

mcnabb brings this all on himself by not saying anything and instead having his father make inflammatory statements on his behalf...and i dont wanna hear how he has no control over his parents....his parents needs to shut their mouths permanently and mcnabb needs to step up and stop being a little baby and just speak...had he done that this wouldnt even be an issue right now....what 30+ year old pro athelete not named eric lindros has his parents speaking to the media all the time and making blog entires on his behalf...its all so gay...grow a set donovan

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

GCobb on the stupid media firestorm that once again is surrounding Donovan;

I talked to a source close to Donovan McNabb yesterday and a member of the Philadelphia Eagles PR staff and they both said McNabb is busy working out and refusing to get caught up in another mole hill being turned into a mountain by the local sports media. They said he's not seething about the Eagles picking Kevin Kolb with their first pick, like was reported by Comcast Sportsnet. Some of the things I've learned about McNabb's coming and going this weekend and on Monday and Tuesday have made me wonder if this episode is a case of one hand not knowing what the other was doing.

Andy Reid says he called Donovan McNabb after making the pick of Houston quarterback Kevin Kolb and left a message because he was unable to get in touch with him. Les Bowen of the Philly.com reports that Reid and McNabb finally caught up with each other on Tuesday. You'd think by putting these two stories together that Reid was trying to get in touch with the veteran quarterback and McNabb was avoiding the coach, but that's not the case. I've learned that Donovan was working out under the guidance of Eagles personnel on Saturday when the Eagles made the pick of Kolb. He was at the Eagles Nova Care facility on Monday working out again. I don't see how Andy Reid couldn't have spoken to him if he wanted to do so, on Saturday or on Monday. The Nova Care Complex is big but it isn't that big. Bowen reports Andy finally talked to Donovan on Tuesday.

I don't think Reid tried that hard to get in touch with McNabb because he didn't think it was that big a deal. He just wanted to leave a message as a minor gesture, so they would be on the same page about them grabbing a young QB early in the draft. But we know that everything concerning Donovan here in Philly, is made to seem to be sinister and contrived. If McNabb is working out under the supervision of Philadelphia Eagles personnel, then you'd figure that Andy Reid should know that or be able to find that out. As I said yesterday, Donovan isn't hiding out anywhere and he hasn't been out on the run like a fugitive, the way some would have to believe. Here you have another case of the local sports media creating a big mountain out of nothing. That's why I kind of understand McNabb's reluctance to play along with the game.

After listening to and reading all the Philly nonsense, you'd think McNabb was avoiding seeing the coach but he's obviously not if he is working out every day at the Nova Care Complex under the guidance of the Birds training staff. The Eagles have a mini-camp coming up on May 12th and I know McNabb will be there watching and probably talk to the media during that weekend. But that's not good enough for our local sports media because they want him to play into all these media-created episodes and come running out to respond each time there's some nonsense started. The media wants to be able to dictate when he talks. I've learned that Donovan refuses to let all the speculating and rumor creating dominate his thinking because he knows he's got to focus on getting back to full strength. If he doesn't get ready to play then that would be a serious issue. What do you think McNabb should do? Should he bow down to the local sports media and answer every rumor and speculation? Or shoud he focus on recovering from an ACL tear and get ready to play football?

If Donovan were to come out and speak now or were to have called a news conference or have put out a statement, would that stop people from speculating and putting words in his mouth. The guy can't win for losing here in Philly because just as soon as he says something, all of the local sports media, now-turned psychologists will start to pick apart his every word, and every blink of the eye.

[Geowhizzer]

And IGY knows "pissy" and "bitch-made!" 

[PhillyPhreak54]

IGY,

McNabb doesn't have to say a goddamn thing. He isn't at the media's beck and call whenever something goes down. Because you know what? If he comes out and holds a PC there's a group of haters (the same ones blasting him for being quiet) who rip away for him talking and not concentrating on football.

And you act like he gets on the phone with his parents and tells 'em to start talking. Yeah they need to shut up but its not like Donovan has them issuing statements for him. They speak when the reporters call them or invite them on DNL to be grilled.

McNabb needs to keep his mouth shut, rehab, and come to camp ready to go. He doesn't need to be Brett Favre and pull the "I ain't gonna mentor no one" nor does he need to be a Doug Pederson and carry Kolb's golf bag either. He needs to keep his mouth hushed and work.

[ice grillin you]

of course he can keep his mouth shut and say absolutely nothing and let his parents do all the talking and fan the flames...thats his absolute right

or he can give one interview to the outlet of his choice and end all this asap...he wont do that tho because hes afraid of what hes gonna say...which will be something akin to what his father said or even worse

but what will happen is that he and his family will continue to hurl veiled disses of the eagles fans and the city then they will continue to wonder why people think their son is such a whiny bastich

[PhillyPhreak54]

One thing that I have always been curious about is why is it okay for us (fans) to blast players but when they take some shots back some get all offended?

I hear it on the radio all the time. Its kinda like "yo, we can rip you but god forbid if you rip us back"

Donovan takes a ton of shtein here - so what if he takes a shot or two back? And why do you keep insisting that he has his parents speaking for him? Whats he gonna do? Put a muzzle on them?

[BigEd76]

PFT:

Can someone tell us when Donovan McNabb became the coach, G.M., president, or owner of this team?  Because we missed the news release.

Why does McNabb have this organization clutched by the short and curlies?  The mere fact that the organization feels compelled to walk on eggshells around him makes us think that the time has come for a change. 

And why should McNabb get a double-extra helping of deference from the team, the media, or anyone?  Because of the Super Bowls he has won?  Because of the MVP awards on his mantle? 

In our view, McNabb is a good quarterback with periodic flashes of greatnesses but who has yet to deliver when it counts the most, and whose body gives out on him too frequently for him to be the long-term solution for a team that is securing its young talent well into the next decade.

The fans simply want a winning team, and an NFL championship would be nice.  McNabb is becoming too much of a distraction, both due to his quiet-but-obvious selfishness and his proneness to injury.

Think about the comments that periodically come from his parents.  Surely, McNabb has the ability to get them to put a sock in it, if he so chooses.  By not telling them to mind their business, McNabb is creating the impression that they are his messengers as to subjects on which he's not ready to get his hands dirty.

The mere fact that the team drafted Kolb tells us that the organization has at least had the internal conversation as to whether McNabb is the long-term solution.  The manner in which McNabb reacts to this latest development could go a long way toward helping the powers-that-be make their decision.

[hunt]

mclindross needs to grow a set & tell his parents to stfu.


that is all.

[Wingspan]

of course he can keep his mouth shut and say absolutely nothing and let his parents do all the talking and fan the flames...thats his absolute right

or he can give one interview to the outlet of his choice and end all this asap...he wont do that tho because hes afraid of what hes gonna say...which will be something akin to what his father said or even worse

but what will happen is that he and his family will continue to hurl veiled disses of the eagles fans and the city then they will continue to wonder why people think their son is such a whiny bastich

That's crap and you know it.

Example: The whole TO firestorm. For weeks he kept his mouth shut about what happened, never slandered anyone and kept things in house. And he got shtein for that. Then, he chose to give an interview to ESPN, which was aired/published leading up to the superbowl, where he said what was on his mind, and did not hold anything back. And the same people jumping on him to to say something, came out and said "Well why did he go to espn, and not a local guy?" or "He should have picked a better time to do it"

So he did exactly what you think he should do now...and got ripped for it.

These are the same voices that went on about the Eagles coddle McNabb, that they are afraid to give him any real job security threat, that the QB job is his without questions. Those cries did a complete 180 on that the second Kolb was picked.

What difference does it make how he feels about the pick of Kolb? You said it before, it doesn't matter the moviation...you play, or you don't. It's pretty well known that vets ALWAYS see rooks as threats to their jobs. If he hates Kolb...fine. If they sleep together...fine. It makes no difference when it comes to the game. If anyone else on the team plays ANY differently depending on who the QB is? They should be cut.

You don't know what McNabb s thinking...or what he is doing. So stop pretending. Because some fatass reporter (eckle, brookover, franks, bowen, etc....) speculates enough and ads just enough conjecture to sound like they are actually "reporting" on something...does not mean they actually are.

[ice grillin you]

TO was a situation where another person was attacking him repeatedly and he took it up the ass

this is a situation where the eagles made a draft pick he didnt like

apples and oranges

if mcnabbs daddy didnt come out with his ridiculous comments the other day and instead mcnabb had come out and said a couple quick comments about the draft like every other quarterback in the league would do if their team drafted a qb then this would be over

but instead he sent one of his parents to do his dirty work...making him look paranoid/upset/pissed about the pick and in general making himself look more and more bitchmade

[Rome]

31 other teams would be lined-up.  LINED-UP, I SAY!