Kevin Curtis, Mormon & Philadelphia Eagle

[ice grillin you]

forget tom brady

mcnabb isnt even drew brees

[rjs246]

forget tom brady

mcnabb isnt even drew brees

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Ha!

[Wingspan]

It's hard to imagine how anyone can argue that McNabb makes the players around him better when TO was the only receiver to have cracked 1000 yards and even his numbers were (on pace to be) down from his average.

This isn't a receiver friendly offense, and McNabb doesn't elevate the players around him. That doesn't mean he isn't a good player. That doesn't mean that I don't want him on the team. It means that he isn't Tom Brady and probably never will be.

I dont think that could be any less correct.

in 2004 owens had 15.6 yards PC, he never played a full season with a higher average, the two times he had a higher average was in 1998 (16.4 starting 10 games, playing in 16) and in 2005 (16.2 playing/starting 7 games)

2004 was the 2nd highest TD total (14) in his career. (16 in 01, on of the rare times he actually played as a started in all 16 games)

2004 with 9 catches over 40 yards, his career best, by far.

His stats for 04...had he played all 16 games would have been 88 catches, 1371 yards, 16 TDs which would have been his 3rd best statistical season.

There is not one instance in 2004, where any stat would have brought down Owens career average.

[rjs246]

OK, I'll stand corrected there. Can we agree that 2004 represents an average year for Owens in his prime? I think we can.

So again, McNabb didn't make him any better. Owens was still Owens.

[Phanatic]

OK, I'll stand corrected there. Can we agree that 2004 represents an average year for Owens in his prime? I think we can.

So again, McNabb didn't make him any better. Owens was still Owens.

You could argue that Owens in his prime is a player of a caliber that you just don't make any better but I won't.

I just want to know why the Eagles never go out and try to get a receiver with at least half his talent given the results on the field. It's a travesty.

[shorebird]

So again, McNabb didn't make him any better. Owens was still Owens.

Yeah, right. Thats why Owens was so good last year.

[rjs246]

What does that have to do with anything? He put the best numbers of his career up with Jeff Garcia throwing to him. Owens had Terry Glenn across the field from him and didn't get the ball thrown his way NEARLY as often as he did in SF or Philly. He also played the entire year with injuries and still rocked more than 1000 yards.

McNabb did nothing for him. He, on the other hand, had a huge impact on McNabb. McNabb's completion %, TDs and yards were the best of his career when he had TO to throw to.

You're flat out wrong about this. McNabb elevates no one. But keep smashing your head into that wall.

[Diomedes]

McNabb elevates Andy.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

McNabb elevates Andy.

Post of the day.

[shorebird]

What does that have to do with anything?

If TO is so farging great and McNabb did nothing to elevate his game, then why did he suck so bad with Romo thorwing to him?? He had a career year with the Eagles and McNabb after he left San Fran. Then he leaves the Eagles and has the worst year of his career, dropping passes, killing drives, costing them a playoff game with that third down drop that was right in his hands.

I'd like to know what him doing good with Jeff Garcia thorwing to him has to do with anything. Garcia was a pro-bowl qb. Now we are seeing TO isn't as good as everyone thought.

You're flat out wrong about this. McNabb elevates no one. But keep smashing your head into that wall.

Your opinion is so twisted by your miserable attitude that nothing you say can really be taken as an honest, unbiased opinion. Therefore, you telling me I'm flat out wrong about McNabb is like farting in a stiff breeze.  It ain't having no effect.

[phattymatty]

i think i'm going to buy a curtis jersey, and then part my hair for every game i attend this year.

[rjs246]

Shorebird you seem to think that TO had an unusually good year whne he was with the Eagles. He didn't have a career year with the Eagles. He had a better year than any Eagle has had, but it wasn't his best year, or even his second best year. WRONG.

[The BIGSTUD]

A combination of McNabb, the fact that the Eagles pass so much, the other weapons like Westbrook to open it up all elevated TO. McNabb certainly helped elevate his game. He doesn't elevate QBs like Brady or Manning do, but after that he is right there.

[shorebird]

Shorebird you seem to think that TO had an unusually good year whne he was with the Eagles. He didn't have a career year with the Eagles. He had a better year than any Eagle has had, but it wasn't his best year, or even his second best year. WRONG.

If he had not have gotten' hurt, it could have been.


I will agree that TO made McNabb better also, one fed of the other, but one of the reasons I think McNabb made TO better, for the second time asking is, if he didn't have his game elevated by McNabb, then why didn't he do the same with Dallas? Why didn't TO make Romo better? Becuase of Glenn?? I laugh at that. TO is supposed to be a much better player.

You think I'm wrong, I don't. If TO has a great year this year, and McNabb, Curtis and the Eagles offense suck, then I'll be proven wrong. Not because of what you or anyone else says.