Ongoing 2007 Mock Draft Thread

Started by BigEd76, January 04, 2007, 11:31:17 PM

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PhillyPhanInDC

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Draftdaddy's updated mock:

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26.  Philadelphia Eagles - CB Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh

The Eagles value CB as a priority position in the draft and need someone to step in at nickel right away.

With Spikes in, LB doesn't seem like as big a need. Revis would be a solid nickel corner, and can play free safety. He's also a pretty good punt returner.

Jamie Dukes, who I think is a douche:
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26. Philadelphia: Reggie Nelson, S, Florida -- Replacing receiver Donte' Stallworth with Kevin Curtis allows Andy Reid to bring another reptile to the secondary. Nelson has the natural instincts of Ed Reed. Eagles safety Michael Lewis fell out of favor last season as Sean Considine took his job. Nelson could be a replacement for Considine and ultimate replacement for Brian Dawkins.

Nelson would be farging sweet.
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SunMo

they have to go safety, there's not really an option
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Diomedes

Yes. 

I still want to see S, LB and CB as the first three picks, S first.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: SunMo on March 28, 2007, 09:44:34 AM
they have to go safety, there's not really an option

You just guaranteed they go DT or OL.

ice grillin you

they need DE more than anything...who are their starting DE's in two years?...it looks scary...id love to see moss at their spot

that said id love any of the big three (landry will obviously be gone) safties...i think merriweather will be there...the question is will nelson or griffin be around at 26

they also need lb real bad...i fargin love timmons (beason too)

also love meachem and i would think real hard about taking him if hes there tho i dont think he will be

thats my short list and i would be estatic with any of the above...i dont think safety is the only option here by any means
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Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 28, 2007, 10:04:30 AM
they need DE more than anything...who are their starting DE's in two years?...it looks scary...id love to see moss at their spot

that said id love any of the big three (landry will obviously be gone) safties...i think merriweather will be there...the question is will nelson or griffin be around at 26

they also need lb real bad...i fargin love timmons (beason too)

also love meachem and i would think real hard about taking him if hes there tho i dont think he will be

thats my short list and i would be estatic with any of the above...i dont think safety is the only option here by any means


Totally agree... although Meachem at #26 would probably piss me off.  Not because I don't like Meachem... they just need to get some top level talent on D.
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phattymatty

okoye is gong to be the best D lineman is this year's draft and he's only 20 years old.  and he already graduated.  dude is a beast and smart.

but he's way long gone by the time we pick.

Seabiscuit36

Whats everyone's impression of Adam Carriker?  Apparently he was at the Novacare complex for a pro workout.
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ice grillin you

you mean adam 'motor that never stops' carriker?

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

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PhillyPhanInDC

#459
Don't know much about Carriker, except that he was making every offensive lineman they put in front of him his bitch at the senior bowl and it's practices. Won't make it past 18 I'm thinking.

NFL.com says:
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OVERVIEW
One of the Big 12's most dominant defensive players, Carriker has drawn favorable comparisons to New England Patriots standout Richard Seymour. Both have the explosive burst to penetrate the backfield and the range to chase down ball carriers along the perimeter.

The team's 2004 Lifter of the Year, not only does Carriker have impressive strength and an imposing frame, but has also excelled in the classroom. He is a three-time All-Big 12 Commissioner's Academic Honor Roll member.

Carriker was a standout quarterback and rush end at Kennewick High School in Washington. Even though his team did not win a game his senior year, he still earned second-team All-Big Nine Conference honors on defense and played in the state all-star game. Carriker recorded 15 sacks, five pass break-ups, four forced fumbles and 25 tackles for loss in his only season as a defensive end.

He was a three-year starter at quarterback and served as a team captain three years. He ran track one year and earned All-Conference baseball honors three times as a designated hitter and first baseman. Academically, he was named to the Principal's list.

Carriker attended Big Red Football School in 2001, and also visited Washington State, Oregon and Oregon State before choosing to enroll at Nebraska in 2002, spending the season as a defensive end on the scout team. A high ankle sprain in 2003 would sideline the reserve defensive end for three games. In limited action in nine contests, he made three tackles (2 solos) with a 9-yard sack and three pressures.

His ankle problems continued in 2004, which cost him one game of action. He would go on to play in 10 games, starting four at right defensive end before shifting to left end for the final four games. He produced 36 tackles (19 solos) with three sacks, seven stops behind the line of scrimmage and seven pressures.

Carriker started all year at "Base" (right) defensive end in 2005. He earned first-team All-Big 12 Conference honors and was named the team's Defensive MVP. He ranked seventh on the team with 43 tackles (26 solos), but he led the conference and ranked 15th in the nation with 9½ sacks. His 17 stops for losses were a team-high and placed him fourth in the league. He added 21 pressures with three pass deflections and recovered one fumble.

In 2006, Carriker was named All-Big 12 Conference first-team, Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year, All-American third-team and team Defensive MVP. He started every game at "Base" defensive end, finishing with 52 tackles (24 solos), as he led the team with seven sacks and ranked second with 16 stops behind the line of scrimmage. He picked off a pass and deflected 12 others while also blocking a kick. He was also credited with 12 quarterback pressures.

In 45 games at Nebraska, Carriker started 34 times. He collected 134 tackles (71 solos) with 20½ sacks for minus-156 yards and 41 stops for losses totaling 184 yards. He posted 43 quarterback pressures and recovered one fumble. He also batted away six passes, picked off another and blocked one kick.

ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a well-built frame with long arms, good chest muscle definition, tight waist, good bubble and decent thickness in his thighs and calves ... Lacks sudden explosiveness, but shows the initial quickness, balance and body control to charge hard in his backside pursuit ... Keeps his pads down nicely for a player of his size, allowing him to gain position and hold his base well vs. double teams ... Has the functional change-of-direction agility to work his way down the line ... Demonstrates a punishing hand punch and excellent overall strength to easily handle multiple blockers, stack and control ... Plants his foot into the ground to anchor at the point of attack and is quite effective at shooting the gaps when working in-line ... Leader by example type, but the staff says he will not only play with pain, but simply refuses to come off the field when hurt ... Has a strong work ethic and is a good program type who does not hesitate to mentor the younger players ... Just adequate coming off the line, but uses his long arm reach and strength to gain advantage out of his stance ... Might be a better fit for tackle due to his lack of edge quickness, but he has the strength and size to destroy interior blockers on contact and bull rush with consistency ... Shows valid instincts and great vision to quickly locate and run to the ball ... Aware of blocking schemes and does a good job of locking out blockers and locating the ball at the X's ... Solid wrap-up tackler whose strength lets him quickly disengage from blocks ... Has the lower-body power in his anchor to neutralize double-team action, consistently stacking while holding ground ... Has enough speed to slip off some blocks and uses his hands well to keep the opponent off his body ... His arm strength lets him consistently gain separation, stuff and shed ... Also has the feet to adjust on the move ... Shows good desire and effort in his lateral pursuit (more on short-area play than going long distances) ... Does a nice job of neutralizing the outside run and forcing it back inside ... His long arms let him engulf ball carriers, showing good strike form to wrap, secure and take down ... Presses the corner well and uses his strength to compensate for adequate speed in attempts to pressure the pocket ... Gives a good second effort in attempts to disengage ... Lacks the extra burst to close on the quarterback, but will collide and push blockers back into the pocket ... Has enough functional quickness to pursue from the backside.

Negatives: More of a power-oriented pass rusher than an explosive edge rusher, making him a better candidate to play one-gap as a defensive tackle ... Has a strong hand punch, but needs to recoil and set quicker when engaging blockers ... Also must keep his hands active; he lacks ideal chop-and-rip moves when trying to disengage ... Lacks an array of moves as a pass rusher and is more of a "meat and potatoes" type who prefers to punish the blocker rather than try to avoid ... Might be at maximum growth potential; the added bulk on his frame in 2006 impeded his explosion off the snap.

Compares To: Richard Seymour, New England -- Carriker is more suited to play like Seymour does in the 3-4 alignment -- out on the edge as a run stuffer and inside as a pass rusher. He has outstanding strength and size, but needs to develop better hand usage in his attempts to disengage. He does a good job of splitting double-teams and does a good job of keeping his feet when moving through trash. He won't spend most of his time chasing down quarterbacks; he doesn't have the explosive closing speed. But he is very effective at pushing blockers back into the pocket. With his size/strength combination, using him as anything outside of the way Seymour plays would be wasting his athletic ability.
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Beermonkey

Quote from: BigEd76 on March 28, 2007, 11:30:20 AM
Quotegood bubble

As much as we make fun of that phrase, I'm still not sure what they mean. Is it his calves, buttocks or something else?

NGM

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methdeez

My  Draft predicitons, 2007.
Expanded to the entire league:
Every team in the league will draft a bunch of large, strong, fast men. Most will be black. There will be wild speculation and judgements made after the draft based on some pre-season workouts. 80% of the draft will wash out, mostly in order of the round that they were drafted in, despite some notable exceptions that will be used endlessly by sportscasters and drunks.

Teams who draft in the first 10 picks will mostly continue to not prosper due to the high risk/reward ratio of the salaries. Teams who draft in the end of the first round will continue do prosper due to the high ability/salary ratio.

I will continued to be bored until August, where I will watch Tivo'd pre-season games numerous times to 'analyze' Eagles draft picks.
I will attempt to alleviate this boredom by attending baseball games, but mostly will just get drunk.