The 2007 Offseason Thread

[phillywin2k5]

Sad reality of value. Eagles completley overvalue the defensive line. See contracts for Kearse and Howard, now Thomas, and first round picks on the likes of Simon, McDougle, Bunkley and Patterson.

They couldn't care less about wide out. One (late) first rounder, Frederick Mitchell, and one marginal big money signing (big name, but underpaid given production) in Owens. Otherwise, we know...Charles Johnson, Torrence Small, Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Antonio Freeman, Wilbur, James Thrash. It looks like they've finally hit on Reggie Brown.

Great.

I think this team is headed for a crash the way they have been putting extension money up for unproven players, i mean come on why the hell do you re-do Mike Patterson 1 year into his contract? Kearse and Howard have been busts based on the money they have been paid! McDougle BUST. Bunkley doesnt look good when you cant over take Walker or Rayburn for playing time.
They also havent drafted a bona fide #1 WR in 8 years of Andy Reids regime. Or a LB that can start for that matter. How about digging into the pocketbook once more and pay Stallworth, even with only 12 games hes made this team much better and he plays every down and BLOCKS! AND Hes only 27, in the prime of his career.

AND Heckert needs to shut the hell up about 38 catches! his gap toothed face hasnt made too many great catches on the GM side of the ball, besides Rookie Free Agents, and Baskett was a Viking and a freebie from Childress!

[BigEd76]

Runyan was on WIP this morning and said A) Feeley is just as good of a backup as Garcia, and B) the team badly needs a kick returner.

[PhillyGirl]

Sad reality of value. Eagles completley overvalue the defensive line. See contracts for Kearse and Howard, now Thomas, and first round picks on the likes of Simon, McDougle, Bunkley and Patterson.

They couldn't care less about wide out. One (late) first rounder, Frederick Mitchell, and one marginal big money signing (big name, but underpaid given production) in Owens. Otherwise, we know...Charles Johnson, Torrence Small, Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Antonio Freeman, Wilbur, James Thrash. It looks like they've finally hit on Reggie Brown.

Great.

I think this team is headed for a crash the way they have been putting extension money up for unproven players, i mean come on why the hell do you re-do Mike Patterson 1 year into his contract? Kearse and Howard have been busts based on the money they have been paid! McDougle BUST. Bunkley doesnt look good when you cant over take Walker or Rayburn for playing time.
They also havent drafted a bona fide #1 WR in 8 years of Andy Reids regime. Or a LB that can start for that matter. How about digging into the pocketbook once more and pay Stallworth, even with only 12 games hes made this team much better and he plays every down and BLOCKS! AND Hes only 27, in the prime of his career.

AND Heckert needs to shut the hell up about 38 catches! his gap toothed face hasnt made too many great catches on the GM side of the ball, besides Rookie Free Agents, and Baskett was a Viking and a freebie from Childress!

wah.

[bobbyinlondon]

Sad reality of value. Eagles completley overvalue the defensive line. See contracts for Kearse and Howard, now Thomas, and first round picks on the likes of Simon, McDougle, Bunkley and Patterson.

They couldn't care less about wide out. One (late) first rounder, Frederick Mitchell, and one marginal big money signing (big name, but underpaid given production) in Owens. Otherwise, we know...Charles Johnson, Torrence Small, Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Antonio Freeman, Wilbur, James Thrash. It looks like they've finally hit on Reggie Brown.

Great.

I think this team is headed for a crash the way they have been putting extension money up for unproven players, i mean come on why the hell do you re-do Mike Patterson 1 year into his contract? Kearse and Howard have been busts based on the money they have been paid! McDougle BUST. Bunkley doesnt look good when you cant over take Walker or Rayburn for playing time.
They also havent drafted a bona fide #1 WR in 8 years of Andy Reids regime. Or a LB that can start for that matter. How about digging into the pocketbook once more and pay Stallworth, even with only 12 games hes made this team much better and he plays every down and BLOCKS! AND Hes only 27, in the prime of his career.

AND Heckert needs to shut the hell up about 38 catches! his gap toothed face hasnt made too many great catches on the GM side of the ball, besides Rookie Free Agents, and Baskett was a Viking and a freebie from Childress!

Their model takes into account players that can be free agents 3 years in advance. The reason they gave their young players extensions is two fold: 1)they saw that this wasn't going to be an outstanding FA class--once you factor in who the franchise tags go on and the high-end RFA tenders, that takes away from a lot of this group; 2)they have to spend at least 92.5M of their cap money in the year. So, if the FA class is weak and you don't want them to spend it on their younger players, who exactly are they going to spend it on? I think they started souring a bit on Stallworth when he hurt his hammy in pregame warmups before the SF game and then he missed time. No one knows if the Eagles are going to at least give him an offer or not--I just see a lot of guesswork.

I didn't see anyone on any fan board bash Patterson last season when he had a decent season for a rookie--it's only because he had a sophmore slump, as some players do, then fans want to come out of the woodwork and bash the player. That's why it takes 3-4 years to judge players. Now McDougle, he's a bust and there's no two ways about it--but that's what the draft is, and that is what free agency is--guess work. Years ago, when Alvin Harper was tearing it up with Michael Irvin down in Dallas and he became a FA, people all over the league were predicting big things--what happened to him after he left Dallas? He fell off the face of the Earth in TB and Washington; same way with Larry Brown--Super Bowl MVP and then washed out with the Raiders.

As far as Heckert having poor drafts, he had the draft of 2002, he picked Andrews, he had a good 2005 draft class, and the 2006 draft class has the potential to be very good. We'll find out this summer whether Bunkley's dedication proves anything or if Justice can challenge William Thomas, or if Gocong is capable, etc. But you can't judge a draft class after one year.

[ice grillin you]

I didn't see anyone on any fan board bash Patterson last season when he had a decent season for a rookie

i dont think anyone has ever bashed him...but i was calling him vanilla last year...all people are saying is how ridiculous it is the extend him right now

So, if the FA class is weak and you don't want them to spend it on their younger players, who exactly are they going to spend it on?

stallworth for starters...and just because the FA class is weak doesnt mean you cant upgrade in it...spend on guys that will improve your team


That's why it takes 3-4 years to judge players.

As far as Heckert having poor drafts, he had the draft of 2002, he picked Andrews, he had a good 2005 draft class, and the 2006 draft class has the potential to be very good

so does it take 3-4 years to judge players or was the 2005 draft good

[BigEd76]

Thomas re-signed, should be announced this weekend

[Sgt PSN]

Thomas re-signed, should be announced this weekend

w00t!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Thomas re-signed, should be announced this weekend

He's vital to the continued mediocrity of the defense.

[SunMo]

christ...i never saw so much commotion over a mediocre player

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Nice terminology!  **HIGH FIVE**

[ice grillin you]

christ...i never saw so much commotion over a mediocre player


i know its absolutely unreal

he was undrafted and got cut by the titans

how does the front office get so many eagle fans to buy into this stuff...to get excited about some guy called juqua thomas...its kinda scary actually

[MURP]

christ...i never saw so much commotion over a mediocre player

yeah, not since some guy named Jeff Garcia gave every armchair coach a boner. 

[SunMo]

fair enough

[BigEd76]

Apparently Mikell just re-signed....4 yrs

[SD_Eagle5]

[munson]now we can't re-sign Stallworth![/munson]