The 2007 Offseason Thread

Started by The BIGSTUD, January 14, 2007, 03:00:22 AM

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SunMo

if they see Considine as the starting SS next year, i'd just rather them bring back Lewis, because Considine is terrible.
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Seabiscuit36

Considine is more of a FS than SS.  Move Dawk over, he's better against the run, Considine will not be as exposed if he's at FS.  He needs to bulk up.  I can understand him overcoming the shoulder injury/surgery but he needs to get some extra weight to his frame. 
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Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 15, 2007, 02:56:37 PM
Considine is more of a FS than SS.  Move Dawk over, he's better against the run, Considine will not be as exposed if he's at FS.  He needs to bulk up.  I can understand him overcoming the shoulder injury/surgery but he needs to get some extra weight to his frame. 

I'd have to agree with you there - he was looking like Simoneau on Saturday, getting blown backward for 5 yards after the hit.
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Mad-Lad

the good thing about Considine is he seemed to be in the right spot most of the time.  If he can get bigger so he won't bounce off guys and/or miss tackles I'd have no problem with him competing for the starting job with whoever they brought in.

Seabiscuit36

He's not a probowler but he's not bad either.  He's in position to make plays, he just needs to make them more consistently. 
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SunMo

he's not going to turn into Hulk Hogan all of the sudden, he is what he is.  and what he is, is a special teamer.
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Munson

I'm still iffy on moving Dawk to SS and putting Considine at FS. Right now I'd rather have Lewis over Considine because at least Lewis can stop the run, instead of being average in both run stopping and pass coverage.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Mad-Lad

Lewis isn't going to be back.  He's piss poor in coverage.  His ability to stop the run wouldnt' be a big deal if the front seven didn't blow so bad.

The BIGSTUD

This team will draft a safety in the first 2 rounds.
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The BIGSTUD

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 15, 2007, 12:45:53 PM
It's farging sad that after spending our last 2 first rounders at DT... the Eagles still get gashed in the run game as much as they do.  It's not that surprising when you think about it though... because as more and more of Ray Rhodes' defense left, the worse the Eagles became against the run.

Either way... they need to address DT again... early in the draft, if not in FA. 

They CAN'T be satisfied with what they got from the DT's this year, especially Walker (outside of maybe 3 games) and Rayburn.

I don't trust them to draft DTs anymore. I'd rather sign a vet so we don't have to go through the whole learning process again.
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ice grillin you

considine was drafted to be a special teamer...the only reason hes in the lineup is because of lewis' zestyness...much like gaither is only playing because of mccoy sucking so bad
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Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 15, 2007, 03:31:36 PM
considine was drafted to be a special teamer...the only reason hes in the lineup is because of lewis' zestyness...much like gaither is only playing because of mccoy sucking so bad

I understand the shot at Considine...but you don't think Gaither has shown the ability to maybe actually be the WLB for this team for the next few years? He still has a lot to prove, like doing well for more then half a season...but I think he played pretty well, and better then McCoy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Seabiscuit36

I think we'll see Gaither Bulk up and become the MLB for next season.  The need to actively pursue to OLB's. 
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Mad-Lad


The BIGSTUD

#74
Chris Gocong may very well turn out to be a stud, but I don't want to go into next season with him starting. Excuse my skepticism, but the team told us the same thing about McCoy and he turned out to suck. Luckily we had Gaither behind him or else the season would've never ended the way it did.

The team doesn't need to go crazy in free agency this year. They really only need 2 or maybe 3 key pieces. One being a run-stuffing DT and the other a SAM. Then if needed they can evaluate what they are going to do with DE. Will Juqua Thomas stay? What will they do to replace McDougle's snaps on the line? Will Howard stay after a disappointing season?  It would be nice to be able to get some pressure on a QB, and I'd rather just cut Howard and sign or draft a solid DE to play opposite Kearse so Cole can take less snaps and be more effective.

I do think they'll address DT in free agency if anything though. They'll probably sell us Gocong being the future and draft a SAM in the mid round after cutting Dhani. I say sign Adalius Thomas, because if Gocong looks great in camp and we go into the season and he sucks then we are screwed. Even if we sign Thomas and Gocong is a solid player, then we have quality depth if nothing else.

Also logic tells you they go safety early. Lewis is probably gone, Considine sucks, and Dawk is getting older. They will probably take one in the first 2 rounds.

Let's just hope this free agency period goes better than last. Everyone was so excited with all that cap room and then you get the daily Spadaro update and it's "Sorry no visits scheduled today or tomorrow."
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