Giants GM & Head Coach Search

Started by PhillyPhreak54, December 28, 2006, 09:37:31 AM

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Philly_Crew

Anyone think Alabama might give Coughlin a try if Saban refuses?  Coughlin had success in the college ranks and initial success with the Jags.  Although the pros may not put up with his heavy-handedness, it may still work in college with their frequent turnover.  Coughlin might be enough of a name for Alabama to save face with the fiasco that is the Saban wooing.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: MDS on December 28, 2006, 01:18:44 PM
Casserly getting the job = automatic bad decision on the next head coach and all player personal areas.

No worries, friends. This will be good.

Fire the guy who traded Phillip Rivers for Sheli and replace him with the guy who passed on Reggie Bush and Vince Young for Mario Williams.  BRILLIANT!

Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

bobbyinlondon

I can't see the Giants shelling out nearly 60M for their next GM and head coach. They'd have to buy out Weis' contract which is about 15M itself, and then he'd probably demand a 5 year 30M deal--that's 45M there--and their next GM is sure to get about 5 years and 15M. Plus, having to pay off Coughlin and all of his assistants?

PhillyPhreak54

QuoteQuoted in The Daily News, one unidentified player on Head Coach Tom Coughlin: "You think the fans don't like him? The players don't like him, either. We're tired of listening to him."

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2006, 10:54:55 AM
QuoteQuoted in The Daily News, one unidentified player on Head Coach Tom Coughlin: "You think the fans don't like him? The players don't like him, either. We're tired of listening to him."

That's exactly the MO of Coughlin.  He lights a fire under a team at first, but his act wears very thin.  He's perfect for the college game or for a short-term fix at head coach, but he's simply too intense to be a long-term solution in the NFL.  Frankly, it's kind of the same deal as Gruden.

henchmanUK

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2006, 10:54:55 AM
QuoteQuoted in The Daily News, one unidentified player on Head Coach Tom Coughlin: "You think the fans don't like him? The players don't like him, either. We're tired of listening to him."

Boo fargin' hoo. I'm sick of reading about Giants players whining like they're the 72 Dolphins. They're a mediocre bunch of cry-babies who haven't done jack since they went to the Super Bowl. So Tiki's retiring to do media work? Best place for him as well as the likes of Strahan, Shockey and all those other whining bitches. Coughlin wins em their first division title in what five or six years? Then the players shtein on him from a great height because he makes them work hard for their multi-million dollar pay packets. Cry me a river you cork suckers.
"The drunkenness, the violence, the nihilism: the Eagles should really be an English football team, not an American one." - Financial Times, London

SunMo

QuoteGIANTS: Pats' Pioli on radar for GM job
Monday, January 08, 2007
BY MIKE GARAFOLO
Star-Ledger Staff

PHILADELPHIA -- The whispers about the Giants' interest in Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli as their next general manager are accurate.

As early as this week, the Giants are expected to request permission to interview Pioli, according to someone who speaks to members of the team's front office on a regular basis. The person requested anonymity because of the private nature of the search.
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The interview could happen even though the Patriots are still in the playoffs. League rules permit teams to speak to members of teams that won their wild-card games for this week only.

Pioli likely would be the leading candidate from outside the organization. The team interviewed former Texans GM Charlie Casserly, but he's considered a long shot.

The in-house favorite is director of player personnel Jerry Reese. That creates an intriguing situation because the Tennessee Titans are interested in Reese to replace outgoing general manager Floyd Reese (they are not related), who resigned last week because the Titans were not going to grant him an extension when his contract expires next month.

The Giants have not commented about their search for a new general manager to replace Ernie Accorsi, who is retiring.

New England owner Robert Kraft likely will go to any length possible to keep Pioli, who helped construct a dynasty along with coach Bill Belichick. But in his current job, Pioli would be allowed to leave for the Giants' GM position because it would be considered a promotion. With the Giants, he would have total control over personnel decisions, which he does not currently have.

Pioli and Belichick have formed a partnership that has resulted in three Super Bowl titles. The Patriots beat the Jets, 37-16, yesterday and now head to San Diego to play the Chargers on Sunday.

Around the league, Pioli is considered a whiz at spotting talent and working around the league's salary cap. On a personal note, Pioli is married to the daughter of former Giants and current Cowboys coach Bill Parcells.

Accorsi's retirement is scheduled to begin one week from today, but that doesn't mean the Giants must name a new GM by then. The next couple of weeks entail college all-star games and other events that can be handled by the scouting department. Free agency -- the first major decision-making process for a GM -- doesn't begin until March.

If the Giants hire Pioli, it would add life to the rumors Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis will be the team's next head coach. Weis was the Patriots' offensive coordinator from 2000-04.

Recently, Weis has publicly stated he would not leave Notre Dame anytime soon, but the same source who discussed Pioli said the Giants have been told Weis would be interested in the job. Weis might simply be taking his public stance because he doesn't want to hurt his recruiting if he stays in South Bend.

if the Giants can land Pioli, that would be a very bad thing for the Eagles.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Sgt PSN

I wish the Lions would fire Millen so Giants could hire him.  That would be super.

BigEd76

Newsday:

QuoteAfter hearing plenty about the Giants and Patriots' VP of Player Personnel Scott Pioli having mutual interest in making Pioli the Giants' GM, a Giants official just told me that the Giants asked the Pats for permission to talk, permission was granted...

And Pioli declined to be interviewed.

Word is that even Bill Belichick placed a call to the Giants to tell them how good Pioli is. This is a bit of a shocker, I think, but the guy has a good job with a good team and might not want to be the one to overhaul the Giants.

Just speculating on that. But it's not speculation that Pioli said no to an interview.

ha

Diomedes

It's awful nice to say "no thanks" to a prospective employer.  I've had the pleasure and man, is it sweet.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

Eaglez

Coughlin might be better in the coaching ranks when he can be a hard ass consistently and still be successful because the egos of college athletes are more malleable than professionals are.

Usually, college football players are willing to learn and want to get better and play as a team. Pros, when they rake in all the dough, have inflated egos and don't necessarily look out for the team's collective interests -- playing unselfish football, taking criticism, knowing that they can and should strive to get better, etc..

Pros have just plateau'ed out. The really great pros are ones that are still willing to learn, get better, and can humble themselves and handle criticism.

Coughlin might have worn on the players, but the lack of team unity in the Giants locker room and the 'its not my problem' attitude in the Giants locker had a greater effect than Coughlin did.



Diomedes

Any leader worth a damn knows that the draconian icehole routine only gets you so far, and never far enough to get anywhere worth going.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: BigEd76 on January 08, 2007, 05:14:06 PM
Newsday:

QuoteAfter hearing plenty about the Giants and Patriots' VP of Player Personnel Scott Pioli having mutual interest in making Pioli the Giants' GM, a Giants official just told me that the Giants asked the Pats for permission to talk, permission was granted...

And Pioli declined to be interviewed.

Word is that even Bill Belichick placed a call to the Giants to tell them how good Pioli is. This is a bit of a shocker, I think, but the guy has a good job with a good team and might not want to be the one to overhaul the Giants.

Just speculating on that. But it's not speculation that Pioli said no to an interview.

ha

Good news. :yay

BlueHeart

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