06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[SD_Eagle5]

nerds should have to actually watch the games before they can speak

and thats the problem...if you go by what this idiot says you literally do not have to ever watch a baseball game to know if a player is good or not

you just check out the OPS and then come on the message boards and talk like you know something

its why so many baseball fans are super geeked out....because they have all these numbers they can play with and if they know the numbers then they can then get in a sports conversation....and if they can get in a sports conversation then that in some perverse way makes them athletic in their minds...it makes them forget that theyve never even so much as played backyard sports...it makes them forget that their parents had to pay other kids to play with them...


in then end you just simply cannot debate someone who references vorp in their argument

and thats word to the emerald chessboard

Werd

[PhillyPhreak54]

Rollin'...in my 5.0 with the top down so my hair can blow.

[ice grillin you]

[Seabiscuit36]

A quote on the hatred of Rowand by nerds on Philaphans.....        

It's very simple. The reason the geeks worship Abreu is the same reason they HATE Rowand. What he does does not translate on paper. He throws his body around in a way they could never even imagine.

Rowand was off to a very solid start before he got hurt. After that he was not very good. I think the injury was part of it, but who knows for sure. I am fine with trading him in the right deal, but I am not willing to give him away.

The geeks were actually angry when he ran into the wall. They could not fathom why he would do such a thing and put himself and the team at risk.

Right on the point

[ice grillin you]

thats a WINNER!

[Wingspan]

Have to say I agree with Mr Beane on this one.  I don't like Burrell and he frustrates me but offensively he is a good, albeit overpaid, player. OBP is far more important than batting average.  His OBP is very very good and he hits for power.  Citing his "inability to hit in the clutch" is a faulty argument, seeing as how in '05 he was one of the best Phillies to do so.  I don't think he's a superstar, and I don't like him in the field, but I do think he's a productive offensive player.

LOL.  OBP is a more important HITTING statistic than batting average?  FOR A POWER HITTER WHO'S PAID TO DRIVE IN RUNS?!?

I see.   

As for Burrell in '05, the number of productive seasons he's had at the plate equal two.  The other five seasons he's been a disappointment, especially last year when the Phillies needed him to step up and protect Howard in the lineup.  He didn't.

burrell spent more time as the #4 and #6 hitters than he did as the #5 guy

[MDS]

They also hate Rowand because they have some sort of diluded view of normal Phillies fans who view Rowand as a god. Rather, the fans like him for his effort and willingness to throw his body around, but are surely aware that he's not really all that good. They just like him as a player in the "hometown hero" sense. mpm has bought into this and along with the nerds on philliesphans, feels his pathetic awarness of stupid baseball stats make him a much smarter and intelligent observer of the game than the normal fan. So with that, they begin to purposely and for no apparant reason other than to make themselves feel better about their supposed superior baseball knowledge, worship players who have high vorp's and what not, and kill players who fans worship simply because they are fun to watch and aren't losers like Pat Burrell.

Even though Burrell is an overall better player than Rowand, simply based on skills, I'd rather have Rowand. I'm not a Rowand worshiper, not by any means, but he actually gives two shteins. Burrell has proven time and time again that he's a loser. He doesn't care about winning, he doesn't care about his teammates, he just cares about how fast he can get from the ballpark to Olde City so he can farg some slutty college girl. Thats all well and good, but when I'm building a baseball team, I'll take someone who actually wants to win.

But it'll be fun having him around. Every game the fans will cheer Pat in the beginning, then he'll strike out looking for the 100th time and everyone will boo. Except mpm, who will cheer how he worked the count. Because that really matters when you hit .250 and strikeout 150 times. Moron.

[ice grillin you]

They also hate Rowand because they have some sort of diluded view of normal Phillies fans who view Rowand as a god. Rather, the fans like him for his effort and willingness to throw his body around, but are surely aware that he's not really all that good. They just like him as a player in the "hometown hero" sense. mpm has bought into this and along with the nerds on philliesphans, feels his pathetic awarness of stupid baseball stats make him a much smarter and intelligent observer of the game than the normal fan. So with that, they begin to purposely and for no apparant reason other than to make themselves feel better about their supposed superior baseball knowledge, worship players who have high vorp's and what not, and kill players who fans worship simply because they are fun to watch and aren't losers like Pat Burrell.

[MURP]

Id just like to take this time to say that BURRELL sucks ass nuggets.  Even a mongoloid knows that. 

[ice grillin you]

even people in utah know it

[SD_Eagle5]

Mormons are people too

[SunMo]

just barely

[mpmcgraw]

Any one who thinks BA is more important than OBP is just stupid.   

Gotta love it when someone who has thousands and thousands of posts on multiple message boards and has an internet persona starts calling other people nerds.  I got a good laugh out of that one.  Thanks IGY. 

I also love MDS's little speech there.  He had over 7,000 posts on philliesphans.             

[Wingspan]

i had some chile for lunch.

i have VORPed 7 times

[ice grillin you]

vorp could be the new johnson