06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[mpmcgraw]

Do they have no common sense too?

NO....people who talk about OPS do not have common sense

'lololol' because batting average and percieved grit are better indicators of performance 'lololol'

OPS is a flawed stat without a doubt.  I like VORP and WARP more if you know what they are. 

[SD_Eagle5]

Are you kidding me? Should I start quoting the negativity of the trade in this thread to prove a point? It's more than the first 3 pages, %50-75 of the thread is fans who have a man crush on Gio even though they've never seen him pitch. I wasn't in favor of giving him up instead of Rowand either but the arguments on that thread are absurd. There are many pro-Floyd posts too which is laughable since he has bust written all over him.

They arent overrating Gonzalez the guy is much less than a sure thing to be a solid major league pitcher, they are responding to trading nothing for prospects for a major league pitcher which hasnt happened since Wagner after the GM gave up on 07 no less than 5 months ago.

The opinions even out as the thread goes on.

There was a thread before the trade and the majority said trade Floyd while you can. 

I saw the Gavin Floyd thread and can't believe how many fans there wanted to keep him around in case he develops late. Saying a 'majority' wanted him traded is an exaggeration. And sorry I didn't read all 34 pages of theGarcia thread, I was on there lastnight and it seemed like %75 of the posters were crying about giving up Gio. I had to stop reading when the argument over Carrasco being a future Ace started.

[ice grillin you]

I like VORP and WARP more if you know what they are.

gladly i dont...and if i ever do its time to end myself

seamheads die 

[mpmcgraw]

Carrasco is 19 and looks to be far above the level of growth for normal 19 year olds.   

A few people are really high on him and I am pretty sure that at least one of those people has actually scouted him. 

[SD_Eagle5]

Carrasco is 19 and looks to be far above the level of growth for normal 19 year olds.   

A few people are really high on him and I am pretty sure that at least one of those people has actually scouted him. 

He just might develop into a good pitcher, I was referring to the bickering like old ladies over his potential by a few of their posters.

[mpmcgraw]

I like VORP and WARP more if you know what they are.

gladly i dont...and if i ever do its time to end myself

seamheads die 

Value Over Replacement Player and Wins Above Replacement Player.

End yourself, please.

[mpmcgraw]

Carrasco is 19 and looks to be far above the level of growth for normal 19 year olds.   

A few people are really high on him and I am pretty sure that at least one of those people has actually scouted him. 

He just might develop into a good pitcher, I was referring to the bickering like old ladies over his potential by a few of their posters.

Well the bickering is between a few posters who hate each other with a passion so its nothing new though.   

[Seabiscuit36]

Im with ya IGY....

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Burrell sucks.

[SD_Eagle5]

Carrasco is 19 and looks to be far above the level of growth for normal 19 year olds.   

A few people are really high on him and I am pretty sure that at least one of those people has actually scouted him. 

He just might develop into a good pitcher, I was referring to the bickering like old ladies over his potential by a few of their posters.

Well the bickering is between a few posters who hate each other with a passion so its nothing new though.   

That was one of the reasons I stopped posting there, that and the holier than thou attitude.

[BigEd76]

I like VORP and WARP more if you know what they are.

gladly i dont...and if i ever do its time to end myself

seamheads die 

It basically means "how much better are you than Chris Coste and Eude Brito"....

[Eaglez]

How did that thread get to 35 pages in one day? That's fargin' ridiculous.

[ice grillin you]

Im with ya IGY....

lets do it then
well round up all the seamheads
put them in a big blender
and feed them to the animals at the african watering hole

[Seabiscuit36]

Deal, and we'll throw in King Cole as chum

[Rome]

So... in conclusion, Burrell is great and Rowand sucks.  Is that about right?