06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[The BIGSTUD]

MLB.com: any trades with the White Sox and Brewers are off, so we're stuck with Lieber

Whoops on that report:

Phils get Garcia but give up Gio

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16180647.htm

[SD_Eagle5]

MLB.com: any trades with the White Sox and Brewers are off, so we're stuck with Lieber

Whoops:

Phils get Garcia but give up Gio

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16180647.htm

I like getting Garcia and giving up Floyd, but not sure how I feel about giving up Gonzalez, he was rated the 9th best pitching prospect in the country. Shocker here is that Rowand wasn't involved, supposedly the White Sox had a boner to get him back since he left. Hopefully they can still make the Lieber trade, Miller said this morning that the only holdup was the Phils.

[Geowhizzer]

Floyd is a non-entity at this point.  Even if he does succeed at this point, it would never have been with the Phillies.

Garcia is a big addition to this team.  The loss of Gio may hurt, but Garica adds something this season.

[Sgt PSN]

Don't know much about Gonzalez but I heard some good things about him.  Then again, looking at his stats he didn't seem to light things up in Reading last year. 

Regardless, I like the trade.  Garcia can pitch now which is what this team needs.  Not prospects who might be able to contribute a few years from now. 

Cole, Myers and Garcia?  Yes please. 

[SD_Eagle5]

Our pitching staff went from:

Myers
Lieber
Lidle
Floyd
Madson

to

Myers
Hamels
Garcia
Eaton
Moyer

[Eagles_Legendz]

Our pitching staff went from:

Myers
Lieber
Lidle
Floyd
Madson

to

Myers
Hamels
Garcia
Eaton
Moyer

I'll take that exchange any day.  However, I too, wanted to hold onto Gio.  Still, don't think I mind the deal much.  Now, lets move Lieber for Mench and Capellan or Turnbow and I'll be even happier.

[MDS]

Mench part of the deal is off. Lieber will be traded for relief pitching. The Phillies were only willing to part ways with Rowand to get SP, now that they got it without him, they will keep his overrate white ass.

[Eagles_Legendz]

Mench part of the deal is off. Lieber will be traded for relief pitching. The Phillies were only willing to part ways with Rowand to get SP, now that they got it without him, they will keep his overrate white ass.

Where did you hear the Mench part is off?

Jayson Stark says the Phillies are getting "interesting" offers about one of their other starting pitches (I'm going to assume it's Myers).  I'd like to see what's being offered for him, but I'd still be in favor of shipping Lieber to the Brewers for Mench + Capellan/Turnbow.  I think that would be a good move.

[The BIGSTUD]

Hopefully they can find a way to get Wells or Manny without giving up Myers or Hamels but I doubt they'll get one of them. Too good to be true. Hell,  even if they were willing to part with either or they still probably wouldn't wind up with Manny or Wells.

[MDS]

The Phils have discussed dealing Lieber to the Milwaukee Brewers for a package that could include hard-throwing reliever Derrick Turnbow. Outfielder Kevin Mench had been mentioned as a part of the proposed deal, but the Phils appeared to have cooled on him today, possibly because they could be holding on to Rowand, who is also a righthanded hitter.

The Phils are still in the market for a lefthanded-hitting outfielder, and today they touched base with the representatives for free agent Aubrey Huff.

In addition to Milwaukee, Lieber has drawn interest from Pittsburgh.

An addition or two to the bullpen and bench and thats it.

[Eagles_Legendz]

They'll get something more than bullpen help for Lieber.  I don't think there is anyway that Conine is who they plan to start in RF.  Also, I still expect Rowand to be moved and Victorino to be the starting CFer.

KC,
I would not trade Hamels for Wells OR Ramirez.  I'd hear offers for Myers, but I completely expect Lieber to be the starter that's moved.

[ice grillin you]

yeah hamels goes nowhere and if he does send the whole franchise with him

[Seabiscuit36]

I didnt want to lose Gonzales, he had good stuff.  Getting Garcia is a huge upgrade, but i not sure he was worth 2 first rounders. 

[Rome]

Why would the White Sox give up a 17-game winner for a bust and a guy who is 2 years away from the majors at the minimum?

I'm not complaining - just curious.

[ice grillin you]

they are loaded with starting pitching and hes gonna be a free agent

also garcia is solid....an upgrade over leiber who is finished but dont believe hes gonna be a 17 game winner on the phils...hes a good pitcher but not great...he won on the white sox because they have had a very good to ws winning team