06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[mpmcgraw]

Right, because out of the two of us the stat geek is definitely the closest to a group of white guys who think they are from the ghetto and talk about 'creds' on the internet.

Right. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Randy Miller on 950 tonight;

Phils and Brewers have a verbal agreement in place to trade Lieber to the Brewers for Kevin Mench and a reliever (Jose Capellan or Derrick Turnbow). The kicker is that it hinges on the Phils getting another starter. Most likely Freddy Garcia from the White Sox.

Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Mench
Helms
Ruiz

Hamels
Myers
Garcia
Moyer
Eaton

[MDS]

Rowand and Lieber
Mench and Garcia

Hmmm.

Mench is okay, but he's sucked since he's been in the NL. He's not too far off from Rowand. But I guess Garcia is an upgrade over Lieber.

[BigEd76]

But Mench has an Eagles tattoo and season tickets, so he's automatically a blue collar Philly guy....

[BigEd76]

Salisbury was on WIP and confirmed Randarino's story.... 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

But here's what Jayson Stark has to say about that Freddy Garcia deal:

Add the Phillies to the list of teams trying to figure out a way to deal for Freddy Garcia. But an official of one team that has talked to both the Phillies and White Sox said there's "no chance" of that trade happening, at least in the near future.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Miller on 610 about 10 minutes ago;

1. Phils talked with the Nationals yesterday about Ryan Church. He said Church would most likely fill the Dellucci role this year should they acquire him. (Salisbury mentioned Rondell White or Preston Wilson as options also). Church is LH and White and Wilson are RH.

2. The Milwaukee Brewers are frustrated with the Phils because they want to do the Lieber for Mench and Turnbow deal now and the Phils are dragging their feet. The Phillies want another SP before unloading Lieber.

3. The White Sox want Rowand and something else for Garcia. It's a classic stalemate between Williams and Gillick. The Sox are holding out for more while Gillick is saying he's got other guys interested in Rowand so Chicago better act fast.

4. Garcia would be a great addition. Won 17 games last year and is much better tan Lieber. Adding Mench would also be a good move.

5. Was told yesterday that the Phils believe that they are back in the Borowski sweepstakes despite him getting a physical by Cleveland. He said his Phils source told him that Borowski's MRI was terrible looking so they think they can get him on a 1 year deal.

6. Octavio Dotel is a guy who they are intersted in still.

7. If they add another starter the Milwaukee deal will go down fast. They want Lieber bad.

Also Salisbury said in the Inky that Akinori Otsuka (TEX) could be an option. He also mentions Dotel as a guy they like. They also like Rod Barajas.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Borowski signs in CLE...1 yr $4M to close.

[Rome]

How could any team want Jon Lieber "bad?"

[PhillyPhreak54]

1. They're the Milwaukee Brewers

2. Bumblin Bud Selig has a connection to them

3. They actually traded for David Bell

[MDS]

Option B out of pen will be Geary, Geoff.

Hoooooray.

[Rome]

Geary was their best middle reliever last season.   I have no problem with him sticking around.

[BigEd76]

MLB.com: any trades with the White Sox and Brewers are off, so we're stuck with Lieber

[SD_Eagle5]

MLB.com: any trades with the White Sox and Brewers are off, so we're stuck with Lieber

Great. They couldn't package something with Rowand to sweeten the deal? A decent prospect, cash, something?

[PhillyPhreak54]

Joy.

A great off-season!