06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[Seabiscuit36]

Crawford would be worth it.  They get him, i dont care about burrell anymore.  Any ideas what he'll cost?  The rays always rip off other teams when its time to trade

[DH]

Victor Zambrano for Scott Kazmir 

[PhillyPhreak54]

i was reading last night that carl crawford is on the block...the phillies need to deal for him asap if thats he case

Agreed.

The problem is that the Rays want, as they ask for everytime someone asks about Baldelli or Crawford, major league ready pitching. The Phils don't have a whole lot to be giving up. Especially for a guy like Crawford. I was reading something awhile back where the writer was saying how the Rays now overprice guys because since they raped the Mets for Kazmir they try to do it all the time and no one wants to deal with them.

But getting Crawford would be happy in the pants good.

[ice grillin you]

With the quickness.  He's EXACTLY what the offense needs.

yes...the exact kind of oplayer im been clamoring instead of a soriano


The problem is that the Rays want, as they ask for everytime someone asks about Baldelli or Crawford, major league ready pitching.

who knows how true it is but a possible deal with the orioles would be ray fiorentino and gibbons...that something the phillies could match and only includes major league relief pitching

[PhillyPhreak54]

Shoot, they could blow that deal outta the water. The winter meetings are this weekend...lets hope that Burrell is traded and they get some help in the BP and maybe Gillick shocks us and gets a big name.

[MDS]

Yea, I'd take him. I mean, if a deal is out there for a right handed power hitter, then I'd take that. But, Rollins-Crawford-Utley-Howard-Helms isn't a horrible 1-5. It's probably gonna be pretty bad against LHP, but whatever.

[ice grillin you]

i cant help but think what marcus hayes would have to say about this

[MDS]

ok, your blackness

Pat Gillick doesn't look at his rotation in terms of others in the National League East; the Phillies' general manager looks at it in terms of the rotation he had at the beginning of last season.

He has replaced Gavin Floyd, Ryan Madson and Cory Lidle with Cole Hamels, Jamie Moyer and, yesterday, Adam Eaton.

Eaton signed a 3-year deal worth $24 million with a $500,000 buyout after 2009. The team can opt to keep him for an extra $9 million. Having passed an extensive physical, Eaton, 29, last night returned to Snohomish, Wash.

"From where we were a year ago, we've probably got a better starting rotation," Gillick said.

That starting rotation hamstrung the Phillies through August. From that point on, the bullpen began to flag. The Phillies hoped they had fixed that problem when they agreed to terms on a multiyear deal with Marlins setup man Joe Borowski this week, but Borowski, 35, failed his physical due to shoulder problems, according to team sources.

The Phillies are believed to still be negotiating with Borowski on a 1-year deal.

"I can't comment on Borowski. It's still too delicate," Gillick said of the situation. "We've still got a few lines out there. We've got some proposals out there."

One proposal is believed to be aimed at Miguel Batista, who was 11-8 with a 4.58 ERA for Arizona this year. He has started in the past, but the Phillies believe he can be a nice bullpen addition.

Gillick said that they still do not have a proposal on the table for David Weathers, whom they are believed to be interested in as a Plan B. The Giants are aggressively pursuing Weathers, who was 4-4 with a 3.54 ERA for the Reds.

As for adding a righthanded hitter to protect Ryan Howard, Gillick appears willing to wait.

The Phillies' 7-year, $114 million offer to Alfonso Soriano was trumped in the 11th hour by the Cubs, who added a year and $22 million, and the Phillies saw no one else on the market worth that kind of money; not even Carlos Lee, who went to the Astros.

Now, said Gillick, "I can't make any assurances that we can get a hitter within the next 30 days or the next 60 days."

He also downplayed the possibility of trading for pitching... which means he doesn't see any trade talks cooking at the winter meetings, which begin Monday outside of Orlando, Fla.

Besides, said Gillick, "We really don't have a lot to trade."

He sounded unwilling to deal young lefty pitching prospects Gio Gonzalez, Fabio Castro or James Happ. He even projected righthander Joe Bisenius, who hasn't pitched above Double A, as a possible bullpen solution if the Phillies need emergency help during the 2007 season.

Then again, if they don't fill out the bullpen soon, the emergency might be upon them.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

7, $114?  Christ.

[mpmcgraw]

Pat Gillick needs to start collecting social security.

[SD_Eagle5]

Considering what the rest of the F/A's received this offseason 7/$114 isn't overpriced.

[MDS]

Again, the Phillies...or at least Gillick, aren't that stupid. Giving Soriano that kind of money wouldnt have hindered their long term plans with Utley and Howard, or Myers and Hamels. Even with pitching, we all know that's Gillick's #1 concern. So if that's what it would have taken to sign Soriano, fine then. But the Cubs upped it by wayyy too much and he took the money and ran to 8 years of a losing record.

[PhillyPhreak54]

David Weathers was not offered arbitration by Cincy. I guess we should expect to see him signed by Monday. Hopefully they get someone else too. Probably Borowski on a 1yr deal since FLA didn't offer him arb. either.

The only player the Phils offered it too was Dellucci.

[MDS]

And the season is saved. David Weathers. Yay.

[mpmcgraw]

i r artist