06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[mpmcgraw]

So now you are saying you know my state of mind when I make this posts.

You are a piece of work.

[Rome]

So who's next on the Phillies hit parade?  Are they going after the guys in the bullpen, doing a trade for Rowand for another starter or something similar or are they waiting until Soriano makes up his mind?

Personally, I'd like they to finish the Soriano deal now and then start on the bullpen issues, hopefully while there are still good candidates left for them to select.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

That'll happen when me shtein turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.

[mpmcgraw]

Sign Vicente Padilla.

[Sgt PSN]

Soriano playing 82 games/year at RFK = 46 HR. 

Soriano playing 82 games/year at CBP =

Burrell has 375 less career at bats than Soriano - 3527 vs 3902. 

Burrell has 181 more strikeouts - 1017 vs 836

Burrell has 14 less homeruns - 208 vs 194

Burrell has hit more than 30 hr's twice (2002, 2005)

Soriano has hit 30 or more 4 times, including 46 last year.  (2002, 2003, 2005, 2006)

Soriano also has 210 stolen bases to Burrell's 5. 

Burrell does have a slightly higher career OPB and OBP while Soriano has a higher batting average (.280 vs .258) and a higher SLG .510 vs .479)

Their numbers aren't drastically different, that much is true.  But there are 2 notable differences between both players.

1.  Soriano gives the Phils another fast base runner who can score from 1st on a double or who can get to 3rd on a single to right.  He also gives them another legitmate base stealer and having that kind of speed in the 5 hole would be a pretty nice luxary to have. 

2.  Soriano has a lot more natural athletic ability than Burrell.  Sure, Soriano looked lost at times in LF last year but he made some tremendous plays that Burrell can only dream of making.  I don't know how much outfield experience he had before last year but he's definitely got the athletic ability to make a top flight outfielder if he works at it. 

Oh, and then there's that whole post season thing.  Soriano's been there and performed well.  Dude played for the Yankees in the post season and played pretty damn well.  Burrell is a choking dog when his team is trying to make a run at the playoffs.  And here's one more stat:

In 2006, Soriano grounded into a double play in 0.5% of his at bats with runners on base.  Burrell grounded into a DP 2.8% of the time.  And that's with 150 less at bats than Soriano last year. 

[mpmcgraw]

I am not challenging any thing you said, I just dont think the Soriano we will almost undoubtedly get in the latter years of his contract is worth the Soriano we will get early in the deal. 

[ice grillin you]

3. burrell sucks soriano doesnt

[dis12]

3. burrell sucks soriano doesnt

4.  burrell REALLY sucks soriano doesnt

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

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[MDS]

ESKIN says that an offer to Soriano has been made 6 yrs/98 mil

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[PhillyPhreak54]

I would like to think they'll get Borowski. But since he had success as a closer this past year my guess is that some team out there will offer him a closers job and he'll take that. I hope no one does and they land him.

Borowski and Justin Speier would be excellent.

If they did offer Soriano 6/98, I hope thats enough. They need to get him done so they can start addressing other spots.

mp's constant talk of OPS has caused me to want to kill people when I hear the word "OPS".

If Soriano falls through I was reading that Andruw Jones and/or Vernon Wells could be on the market. I would love to get either of those guys. But the Phils probably don't have the players to give up to get those guys. Well they do but they will not give up Hamels, Myers, Utley or Howard.

[mpmcgraw]

Would OPS+ be better?

It puts more emphasis on OBP than SLG.  I know how much you luv OBP.

[Sgt PSN]

You've got friggin ADD.  Give it up. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

New screen name suggestions for mpmcgraw;

BillyBeane
ILuvBeanesBag

[mpmcgraw]

Sure, why not.