Election Day, Who's Voting

Started by mussa, November 01, 2006, 11:42:38 AM

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Rome

That part of me that was a fiscal conservative was actually pleased when Bush got elected in 2000.  I figured that if the GOP gained control of the Legislative & Executive Branches, taxes and spending would be cut.

Then something amazing happened: Bush turned into Lyndon Johnson (butter and guns - lotsa guns!).

Someone has to reign in spending in this country.  I honestly don't give a damn if they raise taxes modestly to cover social security, infrastructure and defense, but the pork spending that goes on is more damaging to this country than anything else.  Our asses are getting further and further in debt and no amount of economic expansion can correct that.

Butchers Bill

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 08, 2006, 11:20:25 AM
Nothing will change because the fargtard in the White House is still there.

If the Democrats had control of the H.O.R & Senate as well as the White House, then things would shift dramatically in this country.


Even if the Dems win the presidency in 2008 (which I think they will with a Gore-Obama ticket) there will be no "dramatic" change.

1.) We are stuck in Iraq, and no one has the political will to do what it will take to get us out or win (that goes for both parties).

2.) Taxes will be raised on everyone (not just the rich) and we'll all fight about it while the uber-rich sit back and laugh at us.  The top tax bracket starts at $336,500 for a single person.  Why the farg are we arguing over minuscule percentage points between 25k and 150k?  The estate tax?  I would love to see it come back, but the Dems don't have the political will to pass it.

3.) The economy is strong and an increase in the minimum wage won't hurt it (it should have been done a long time ago).  Does anyone think the Dems can lower the unemployment rate from 4.4% or bring back high paying manufacturing jobs?

4.) Most of the Dem "gains" last night were won by moderates. 
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 08, 2006, 11:37:56 AM
That part of me that was a fiscal conservative was actually pleased when Bush got elected in 2000.  I figured that if the GOP gained control of the Legislative & Executive Branches, taxes and spending would be cut.

Then something amazing happened: Bush turned into Lyndon Johnson (butter and guns - lotsa guns!).

Someone has to reign in spending in this country.  I honestly don't give a damn if they raise taxes modestly to cover social security, infrastructure and defense, but the pork spending that goes on is more damaging to this country than anything else.  Our asses are getting further and further in debt and no amount of economic expansion can correct that.

Yes.  Me too.

Yep.  Douche.

Hell yes.


The fact that I agree with your post so much is intriguing, considering how much you were trumpeting the leftist extreme a la IGY throughout this thread until now.  Weirdo.

PhillyPhreak54

Would Gore really run again in 2008?

Who else would we be looking at as candidates? The talking heads on TV keep saying that Santorum and Allen could run despite losing yesterday. Would we see Giuliani on the GOP ticket?

Sgt PSN

Guess this is as good a place as any to bring it up, but did anyone catch The Daily Show/Colbert Report Midterm Midtacular last night?  Funny shtein.  :-D 

PoopyfaceMcGee

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2006, 12:05:12 PM
Who else would we be looking at as candidates? The talking heads on TV keep saying that Santorum and Allen could run despite losing yesterday. Would we see Giuliani on the GOP ticket?

The 4 names I heard as top contenders for the Repubs last night were McCain, Gingrich, Giuliani, and Romney.

Santorum has precisely zero chance at a nomination.

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2006, 12:05:56 PM
Guess this is as good a place as any to bring it up, but did anyone catch The Daily Show/Colbert Report Midterm Midtacular last night?  Funny shtein.  :-D 

Watched it until I got to fall asleep around 11:20.  Good stuff.  I like how they said Santorum got "raptured".

PoopyfaceMcGee


Rome

Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 11:45:11 AM
The fact that I agree with your post so much is intriguing, considering how much you were trumpeting the leftist extreme a la IGY throughout this thread until now.  Weirdo.

Fiscal conservative, social liberal, FF.


Rome

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Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2006, 12:05:12 PM
Would Gore really run again in 2008?

Who else would we be looking at as candidates? The talking heads on TV keep saying that Santorum and Allen could run despite losing yesterday. Would we see Giuliani on the GOP ticket?

Santorum is done on the national stage and Giuliani scares the shtein out of moderates because of his track record in New York.  Allen's a hick from the south.  I think America has had enough of them.

I'd vote for McCain right now if he ran.  I'd follow him through the gates of Hell, actually.   :yay

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 08, 2006, 12:29:37 PM
Fiscal conservative, social liberal, FF.

Fiscal conservation, social stay-the-hell-out-of-my life here.

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 08, 2006, 12:32:50 PM
I'd vote for McCain right now if he ran.  I'd follow him through the gates of Hell, actually.   :yay

I like McCain in many ways, but I think that ultimately, he's unelectable because he has a few screws loose.  Personally, I like it, but the masses always migrate to someone "safer".  I just hope Gingrich doesn't sniff a nomination.

Rome

If Jeb Bush wins in 2008, I'm moving my family to New Zealand.

Zrsly.


PoopyfaceMcGee

The Democrats would have to seriously, seriously farg up in the next 2 years to allow a Bush to be elected in 2008.

I think all politicians are capable of idiocy, but Jeb Bush's political future is thankfully of minimal consequence.



That said, what's the job market like in New Zealand?

Butchers Bill

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2006, 12:05:12 PM
Would Gore really run again in 2008?


Sure.  He has greatly improved his chances in the past couple years and can basically run on the platform of hey, I really won in 2000 and none of this would have happened if I had been President. 
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

PoopyfaceMcGee

BTW, the domestic economy is actually doing OK right now, which kind of proves that the nation's economy goes in waves regardless of the party in power or governmental effects for the most part.

I'd vote for Gore roughly 83 times before I'd consider voting for Hillary.  At least his platform is environmentally-centralized instead of outright Socialism.  Plus, I think he's simply a better person with better intentions for use of his power.

However, the comedy of Bill Clinton back in the white house as the "first man" might be too much to resist.

Rome

Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 12:50:27 PM
However, the comedy of Bill Clinton back in the white house as the "first man" might be too much to resist.

I would think term limits would prevent Hillary from becoming president again.

;D