06/07 Phillies Offseason Thread

[Rome]

Phillies = pyrite standard.

[SD_Eagle5]

So long Art, we hardly knew ya.

Phils will not bid on the Japanese 3B Iwamura. They'll go after DeRosa or Helms to platoon with Babe Nunez.

If Soriano is signed, and I know thats a big if, I'd have no problem with Coste/Ruiz and or Nunez/Helms/DeRosa at the bottom of the lineup.

[ice grillin you]

if they get soriano there no need to get anyone for 3rd base...nunez is pretty good with the glove

can you imagine an infield with utley howard and wes helms or derosa...basically just hit the ball on the ground and you have a good chance of getting on base

[Sgt PSN]

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'd be OK with them getting DeRosa simply because he always seems to kill the Phils when playing against them.

[PhillyPhreak54]

So long Art, we hardly knew ya.

Phils will not bid on the Japanese 3B Iwamura. They'll go after DeRosa or Helms to platoon with Babe Nunez.

If Soriano is signed, and I know thats a big if, I'd have no problem with Coste/Ruiz and or Nunez/Helms/DeRosa at the bottom of the lineup.

Agreed.

I doubt they get DeRosa though. I read somewhere that he will likely be offered a starting 2B job by someone. Helms is a good RH bat off the bench.

And IGY is right about the defense. Hopefully Utley is less of a butcher and Howard doesn't look like Robert Esche in goal next year when playing 1st.

[SD_Eagle5]

And IGY is right about the defense. Hopefully Utley is less of a butcher and Howard doesn't look like Robert Esche in goal next year when playing 1st.

I still would be okay with just Nunez as the everyday starter,  I put him as a top 10 defensive guy at the hot corner and he did come through with an occassional clutch hit while making virtually nothing.

[mpmcgraw]

Helms and Derosa are both pretty horrible defensively at third. 

So basically instead of just having one of the worst offensive players that has ever been a full time starter, we will also have a horrible fielder at third splitting time with him.   

The Soriano upgrade would not be as large as some of you think. Unless they keep Burrell, or add another similiar player to Burrell like Sheff  that offense could end up scoring about as many runs as this year's offense did.   

You have to figure that Howard is going to regress at least a little.

[MDS]

The pitching will be better.

And Soriano's production >>>>>>> Burrell's production

You, sir, are a moron.

[mpmcgraw]

Yes, he is definitely an upgrade.  I said that. 

Soriano had a career year this year.  Could he do it again?  Yes.  Is it likely at his age?  Probably not.   

Replacing Burrell with Soriano should definitely increase run production if Soriano stays healthy, but I dont think the change is as dramatic as you are trying to make it out to be. 

[ice grillin you]

im against getting soriano but dont get it twisted...replacing burrell with soriano is a monmumental imporvement....

shtein getting rid of burrell period is a leap for mankind

[mpmcgraw]

Depending on what we give Soriano and how much of Burrell's contract we ate I would agree with that. 

If we ate a crazy amount of Burrell's contract and gave Soriano 6/100 I'd rather have just kept Burrell though. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You have to figure that Howard is going to regress at least a little.

Wrong.  I expect 78 HR's and 217 RBI from Howard next year.

Depending on what we give Soriano and how much of Burrell's contract we ate I would agree with that. 

If we ate a crazy amount of Burrell's contract and gave Soriano 6/100 I'd rather have just kept Burrell though. 

It's shocking that you'd feel that way.  Really shocking.

[MDS]

I'm not sure you remember the complete lack of production from the person batting behind Howard

Conine- .250, 2 homers, 28 rbi
Dellucci- .229, 3 homers, 10 rbi
Burrell- .257, 9 homers, 29 rbi

Burrell wins. Anyway, I can't specifcy how each one hit with risp and behind Howard, but the pretty much sets the picture. They all sucked. Getting a quality bat like Soriano would make this offense pretty damn good.

[mpmcgraw]

I'm not sure you remember the complete lack of production from the person batting behind Howard

Conine- .250, 2 homers, 28 rbi
Dellucci- .229, 3 homers, 10 rbi
Burrell- .257, 9 homers, 29 rbi

Burrell wins. Anyway, I can't specifcy how each one hit with risp and behind Howard, but the pretty much sets the picture. They all sucked. Getting a quality bat like Soriano would make this offense pretty damn good.

Soriano has had a worse career with RISP than Burrell.