The Running Backs, Wide Receivers and other offensive questionmarks...

[Diomedes]

igy lover.

[Rome]

Aside from Brown what WR on this roster would you take over Lelie?

Difficulty: you can't answer Hank.

Actually, I would take anyone one of the receivers over Lelie because I think he's a bitch ass flag.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

We know Lelie won't produce more than Todd Pinkston. 

who knows this?

from what i can recall, lelie has two healthy achilles tendons.

I have to agree.  That's one of Jerome99's most ridiculous comments to date.

[Feva]

Lelie sucks.

Adding a subpar player to a position where there are question marks doesn't improve the team, IGY.  It only ensures that the players as a group at the position will remain mediocre.

We have no idea what Avant, Baskett, Brown, Gaffney et al. will produce during the season.  We know Lelie won't produce more than Todd Pinkston.  Do you really want to add a subpar, one-trick-pony to the mix?

What in the world?

Are you saying the one-trick pony with two healthy legs won't produce more than the one trick pony with a busted achilles?

Who will be this team's deep threat, Rome?  What we DO know about Avant, Basket, Gaffney is that none of them are considered burners.  You saw how the passing game changed without a deep threat last year.  I guess you're convinced that Pinkston will come back 100% with all of his speed, showing no ill effects of his injury.  That is the ONLY scenario where Lelie cannot benefit this team... and even then, it's debateable because Pinkston on his best day is not as good as Lelie.

[Rome]

You guys aren't really that thick, are you?

I meant Lelie wouldn't produce more than a healthy Todd Pinkston.

[SunMo]

but he's not healthy, so it's not an arguement to be made right now

[Rome]

Why aren't those of you who are calling for Mr. Mediocre at least willing to see what the guys on the roster currently have to offer before panicking and calling for the Eagles to pick up other players?

It's so farging easy to say "get Lelie" or "get Stallworth" without giving any thought to what the guys on the team right now might produce.

It's sad, really.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Why aren't those of you who are calling for Mr. Mediocre at least willing to see what the guys on the roster currently have to offer before panicking and calling for the Eagles to pick up other players?

It's so farging easy to say "get Lelie" or "get Stallworth" without giving any thought to what the guys on the team right now might produce.

It's sad, really.

So, by your logic, the current receiving corps needs to absolutely prove that they suck in a regular-season setting before the Eagles should do anything to shure up the position?

The fact that an undrafted rookie has taken over a starting role should be enough to prove that.

[Sgt PSN]

- He said he understands how the fans feel about the receivers. He said the fans haven't seen some of the young guys in meaningful regular season games yet, so he fully understands their worry. Eskin asked him what he can say to the fans to convince them they are good enough, and Andy said he's not one to be cocky, but come down to the Linc and you'll see what they are made of.

I didn't catch this at first but I realized that no one has seen the young recievers in meaningful games yet.  Including Andy.  We've all seen Reggie Brown and know what he can do and we've all seen Greg Lewis and know what he can (can't) do.  Everyone else is basically a mystery......to the fans and coaching staff when it comes to having seen them in regular season action. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, we wouldn't want to add a Lelie or Stallworth before giving the coaching staff every opportunity to get a long look at J.J. Outlaw and Bill Sampy.

[ice grillin you]

ive seen all i need to of hank baskett....anyone whos watched him even once could tell you exactly what he cant and can do...except for andy of course

but andy would just love to have a udfa AND a guy he traded for win a starting job and be successful

[Rome]

Why aren't those of you who are calling for Mr. Mediocre at least willing to see what the guys on the roster currently have to offer before panicking and calling for the Eagles to pick up other players?

It's so farging easy to say "get Lelie" or "get Stallworth" without giving any thought to what the guys on the team right now might produce.

It's sad, really.

So, by your logic, the current receiving corps needs to absolutely prove that they suck in a regular-season setting before the Eagles should do anything to shure up the position?

The fact that an undrafted rookie has taken over a starting role should be enough to prove that.

No.  What I mean is, the current crop needs to prove they can get the job done first.  They don't need to prove that they can fail.  Why are YOU assuming that they're going to fail?

As far as Baskett goes, the fact that he's an UDFA is irrelevent.  He's earned the job through hard work, by demonstrating his skills on the field, and by learning the offense quicker than anyone else has ever learned it. 

Lelie, on the other hand, wouldn't even put the pads on in Denver and fight for his starting job.  Yeah, that's the kind of player I want on my team.  A gutless Hoyda who when faced with a challenge takes his ball and goes home.

[reese125]

ive seen all i need to of hank baskett....anyone whos watched him even once could tell you exactly what he cant and can do...except for andy of course

but andy would just love to have a udfa AND a guy he traded for win a starting job and be successful

whats Andy Reids favorite song---"I'll be your hero"

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

No.  What I mean is, the current crop needs to prove they can get the job done first.  They don't need to prove that they can fail.  Why are YOU assuming that they're going to fail?

Define failure.  See, I think they will prove to be no better than near the top of the bottom half of WR corps in the NFL - High teens to early 20's by comparison to other NFL teams.  Why is that OK?  It shouldn't be.

As far as Baskett goes, the fact that he's an UDFA is irrelevent.  He's earned the job through hard work, by demonstrating his skills on the field, and by learning the offense quicker than anyone else has ever learned it. 

It absolutely is relevant.  Name the last Super Bowl winning team that started a rookie at WR.  How about the last one that started an undrafted rookie at WR?  The fact is that with the complexity of the Eagles offense and the nuances a guy needs to learn to go from college to the pros, no rookie, let alone one passed up by every team over and over again in the draft, should be able to beat out good competition to start at WR on a Super Bowl-contending team.  The fact of the matter is that the Eagles offered up none of this "good" competition for Baskett.

Lelie, on the other hand, wouldn't even put the pads on in Denver and fight for his starting job.  Yeah, that's the kind of player I want on my team.  A gutless Hoyda who when faced with a challenge takes his ball and goes home.

We have a gutless Hoyda with a game similar to Lelie's, only he's not healthy as Lelie is.

[ice grillin you]

What I mean is, the current crop needs to prove they can get the job done first.

i laugh at this because the idea that a whole position has to prove itself makes me sick...i could see one guy like greg lewis a couple years ago having to prove himself....but a whole effin position having to do it is pathetic

as for baskett get off the dills....im sure hes a hardworker and all around good guy but he made the team mostly because the position he tried out for SUCKS