Excerpts from New T.O. Book Released

[ice grillin you]

fox sports take on mcnabb and the other nfl qb's...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5764156

[rjs246]

Interesting stuff on the rookie QB projection formula.

[Drunkmasterflex]

McNabb's numbers were unimpressive because he was overrated or just lacked receivers? His numbers were always good when he had a good receiver/receivers to throw to they were very good to awesome.  Whatever no matter what he does there are always to going to be people that make excuses as to why he is not good.

[rjs246]

His yards and TDs were above average. His completion percentage, which isn't a sexy number but an obviously important one in an offense that relies on the passing game as part of its running game (christ, just typing it makes me want to throw up on myself), was always at or below average for a top QB.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Putting KC QB's ahead of Philly's is questionable.  Maybe Denver too, but Plummer had a good season last year.

I laughed at this:

Koy Detmer likes to hold things.

[Drunkmasterflex]

His yards and TDs were above average. His completion percentage, which isn't a sexy number but an obviously important one in an offense that relies on the passing game as part of its running game (christ, just typing it makes me want to throw up on myself), was always at or below average for a top QB.

Yes, but his completion percentage is usually pretty close to 60% and when he had a year with him in TO in accord it was well over 60%.  For whatever reason AR and Co have never felt obligated to surround him with premium receivers.  Could you imagine if he were in Indy's or the Moss lead Vikings offense.  Hell, would ever give him the Steelers WR corps and he would put up huge numbers. 

To me Donovan's failures as a player are more reflections of AR as a coach, he often has not played to McNabb's strengths.

[rjs246]

Putting KC QB's ahead of Philly's is questionable. Maybe Denver too, but Plummer had a good season last year.

I laughed at this:

Koy Detmer likes to hold things.

Trent Green threw for over 4000 yards with the worst WRs in the world last year. Plummer, for his many faults, has been a better QB since he got to Denver. I don't have a problem with either of those.

[Magical_Retard]

I just can't understand why some of you deny that McNabb does actually have his fair share of shortcomings.  None of us are here saying that winning a Super Bowl would be impossible with him or that he's not a very good QB.  We are saying that if he worked on his mental toughness as much as he played with ropes and beanbags, he might have already won a Super Bowl.  That's about it.

and i just cant understand how everyone some how knows mcnabb's problems, his mental toughness, or his over ability to will his team to a victory. the dude has played on a broken ankle, rushed back to make it to the team to play in the playoffs, played thru thumb injuries, a sports hernia....how much more thougher does he need to be? mental toughness? how does anyone know whats going on his head? cause of what TO says? we are to believe TO now?

yeah mcnabb is never a get in ur face type of leader but he doesnt need to be. not every great qb is like that. its not like the recipe to a great QB is having to be a fiery in ur face type of guy.


and igy does mcnabb need to give soundbites during the week leading up to the dallas game for you to think this game is more to him than just another game? u really want a player to come out and basically admit this game means more than others. we all know all players have certain games or teams they play against and have it mean more but publicly admitting it? u dont think the rest of the team will be up for it anyway? what would u have mcnabb do? act like a ass? act like TO? say crap about him? i really dont get this line of thinking...if anything if they do lose i would want the mentality that yeah ok it was 1 game and we can move and thats what we will do.  ill admit TO brought attitude to this whole team but when u have WRs like pinkston and thrash any attitude will do.  what happens if we beat dallas? u want mcnabb to act like TO and gloat and go on tv and talk more crap. i dont know i rather not have mcnabb ever do that.

2ndly about the WRs...its a combination...McNabb can work with limited talent and i think at the same time McNabb isnt amazing enough to elevate just anyones game. torrence small? johnson? thrash? pinkston? these guys could barely beat bump and run coverage and u expect Mcnabb to elevate their games? maybe the HOF QBs can but ill gladly admit McNabb is either not that good or not there yet. McNabb has other flaws as in when he holds on to the ball too much sometimes instead of taking off or when he throws at ppl's feet. i dont think even the biggest McNabb fan would claim him to be the best.

at the same time look at the WRs your claiming he should have elevated the games off. Thrash is 3rd or worse on the depth chart in washington. torrence small and johnson were nothing special b4 they came here...while they were here...and after they left here. pinkston is afraid to catch the ball sometimes and i doubt would start for any team no matter how great thier WR is.

so is steve smith a product of delhomme or vice versa? prolly both but i think ppl are giving way too much credit to QBs  in the case of some of the better WRs out there.

[Phanatic]

OK so McNabb is a descent enough QB who requires the right weapons to be successful because he's not good enough to make an average receiver great.... So what!
Why hasn't the coaching staff gone out and gotten teh awesome receiver for the offense to build around? We have teh awesome running back receiver who can't run between the tackles and teh awesome receiving TE who can't block and likes to fumble. Then we have teh one dimensional Pinkston who is good at running down the field really really fast if no one breathes on him. We have Reggie Brown with all that potential and a flash of talent but who really knows what will happen. That new guy Gaffney who might be good. Not sure as he's never had a QB with enough time to get the ball off.

There are a lot of problems with the Eagles offense. McNabb is one of the few areas that we can say we're solid. In the NFC East I'd take McNabb over Eli, Brunnel and Bledsoe. Nothing is perfect nor is it going to be. If I were the Eagles I'd work on other areas of the offense...

[MURP]

Trent Green is a good QB, but What does Trent Green have to work with...... the WR's are not very good, but KC has one of the best running games in the NFL, one of the best Olines in the NFL, one of the best TE's in the NFL....  certainly takes the pressure off.

[Sgt PSN]

Everyone who posted in this thread commenting about TO's book and then somehow turning it into an argument about McNabb is an idiot.  Except me.   I've got the smurts. 

[ice grillin you]

and igy does mcnabb need to give soundbites during the week leading up to the dallas game for you to think this game is more to him than just another game?

yes

u really want a player to come out and basically admit this game means more than others

yes

[Susquehanna Birder]

I'd like to see that, too. Not because of Owens, though. Just because it's Dallas.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Everyone who posted in this thread commenting about TO's book and then somehow turning it into an argument about McNabb is an idiot.  Except me.   I've got the smurts. 

We had to change the subject, because it wasn't "Eagles Talk" before.

[sallad selgae]

According to the T.O. Book I think all entries from here on should start with "According to the T.O. Book". 

That should solve everything.