Sixers offseason

[Drunkmasterflex]

see theres your problem...they dont have to be a laughing stock, especially when trading your superstar and they could possibly get a veteran shooter with the other youngbucks.

I dont think you want to see a game that produces 72-80 points on a consistent basis. If you do, the WNBA needs followers. I highly doubt Cheeks and King want a laughing stock on the court

I don't see what is wrong with them rebuilding next year, you want them to continue to be a fringe playoff team?

[reese125]

theres no question Carney will be coming off the bench. 8pts/game tops, defensive purposes. Ill take it from a rookie

all these rumors, even the Celtics rumors are ridiculous. when a rumor breaks and theres 900 articles about it, it must be truth right. Like mentioned before, this is the biggest trade of Kings life. If he trades AI for the players above...he'll be selling pretzels on the Ben Franklin bridge next year

Drunk, I dont have a problem rebuilding, but lets not get carried away with the word "rebuilding". We have a superstar on the team that you can get significant value for right now. the Sixers still have some good players, and Im comfortable and hopeful with them being very competitive each game next year with the outcome of this trade. Im just praying for a meaningful one that will get them to the playoffs in a few years

If the Bulls traded Jordan when he was 30 (1993 he won the scoring title at 32pts/game), and lets just take the scoring alone here, do you really think he would be traded for G. Green, Rondo and Gooden? Yeah, I laughed too.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I don't think they can expect much better return than Gooden, Rondo, and G. Green at this stage in AI's career.  They should have traded him 2-3 years ago.  The novelty of his game has worn off, and fans have stopped coming to games to see him, so it's time to get what they can and re-build.  Webber is an albatross, but they don't have to let AI become one.  Rondo can create a lot of excitement, as can Carney and Iguodala.  Dalembert, Gooden, and Webber would be a decent tandem in the C/PF game.

It's probably my favorite of the deals I've heard.

[reese125]

"get what you can" is a schewed mentality to have Patt. off of an one-legged Chris Webber yes, but not a superstar who shows no signs of slowing down. Where is his drop in scoring avg been? So you just dust a 30 pts scorer him under the carpet because your bored of him?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Iverson only scores 30 points a game because he takes 40 shots.  He's not a high % shooter, he'll never be a high % shooter, and he's not going to be conducive to a rebuilding effort.

And stop comparing him to Jordan.  That's just ridiculous.

[hunt]

If the Bulls traded Jordan when he was 30 (1993 he won the scoring title at 32pts/game), and lets just take the scoring alone here, do you really think he would be traded for G. Green, Rondo and Gooden? Yeah, I laughed too.

i'm laughing at you comparing iverson to jordan.

i understand your point about the sixers getting as much as possible for a1...and i think that's what king is trying to do.  i just don't see a team giving up their "superstar" for iverson.  it simply won't happen.  and there's no way they keep a1 at this point.

[SunMo]

not because you're bored, because you can't win with him.  now, that's not blaming him, that's stating a fact.  they will not win anything with AI for the rest of his career.  so, you deal him because he's your most valuable chip and he can get you pieces to fix the team.  you also get rid of him because he's owed 60 million over the next 3 years.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Or, they could keep Iverson and his 30 points a game, watch ticket sales dwindle, and possibly be the 7 or 8 seed in the playoffs and lose in the 1st round... if they're lucky.  Let's strive for mediocrity!

[reese125]

jesus christ--repeat--not comparing the two--scoring avg's alone

not to mention this converation just made tangent of the year

[Magical_Retard]

I don't think they can expect much better return than Gooden, Rondo, and G. Green at this stage in AI's career.  They should have traded him 2-3 years ago.  The novelty of his game has worn off, and fans have stopped coming to games to see him, so it's time to get what they can and re-build.  Webber is an albatross, but they don't have to let AI become one.  Rondo can create a lot of excitement, as can Carney and Iguodala.  Dalembert, Gooden, and Webber would be a decent tandem in the C/PF game.

It's probably my favorite of the deals I've heard.

can u please explain that? the novelty of his game has worn off? u dont think it has anything to do with the fact the team isnt that good anymore and we arent competing like we used to be? u dont think it has to do with us going from a championship calibur team to mediocre team over the span of one yr? oh but it must be because Iverson, still producing like he did even then, is boring to the fans now. which ever city the team goes gets a higher attendance just cause the home team is playing against AI. he still generates a buzz and excitement and his jersey is still a top seller. of course the home team wont come to watch a mediocre team like they used to come watch a top tier team.


i still contend that if we had a capable GM who hadnt dug us into this hole we could still add a few pieces and build around Iverson who even at age 30 hasnt slown down one bit. yet king gets to stay for some reason.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

i still contend that if we had a capable GM who hadnt dug us into this hole we could still add a few pieces and build around Iverson who even at age 30 hasnt slown down one bit. yet king gets to stay for some reason.

Great contention.  Now explain how in the hell that is even possible.  Between Iverson and Webber, there is basically no salary available for anyone else.  Dalembert and Korver are tying up quite a bit of dough also.  The only one who has any trade value is Iverson, and the fact he hasn't slowed down yet is no reason to believe that he won't in the next 2-3 years.

[Magical_Retard]

i still contend that if we had a capable GM who hadnt dug us into this hole we could still add a few pieces and build around Iverson who even at age 30 hasnt slown down one bit. yet king gets to stay for some reason.

Great contention.  Now explain how in the hell that is even possible.  Between Iverson and Webber, there is basically no salary available for anyone else.  Dalembert and Korver are tying up quite a bit of dough also.  The only one who has any trade value is Iverson, and the fact he hasn't slowed down yet is no reason to believe that he won't in the next 2-3 years.

and whos moves was it that got us webber, the big contracts with dalembert, korver, and any other stupid contract we given to mediocre players. sure he isnt isiah but king is a horrible GM.

iverson was supposed to break down long b4 remember? esp the style he plays where he is on the floor than wade. i dont see any signs of him slowing down but who knows he might or might not.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I never said BK was a good GM, but we can't get in a time machine and go undo his mistakes.  The team has to move forward, and the only way to do so at this point is to end the Iverson era.

[Magical_Retard]

I never said BK was a good GM, but we can't get in a time machine and go undo his mistakes.  The team has to move forward, and the only way to do so at this point is to end the Iverson era.

i didnt disagree (cept i think we can still build around iverson) but my point was we arent in this hole cause iverson is a bad player like sun mo was trying to imply as a reason for trading him...my point is we have to start all over cause our front office failed us.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I don't think Sun Mo is a massive BK fan either.  You two probably agree more than you think.

The Sixers don't have the worst front office in Philly, and they're about half way up or down (depending on your POV) the food chain in the NBA as a whole.  I don't know if they could do much better if they canned BK.

What I do know is that they can't build around Iverson anymore.