Smoking ban in Philadelphia approved

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Many bars ARE made for smoking, actually.  And for plenty of bar-going people I know, smoking is just as important as drinking.  Your argument sucks more ass than your football opinions.

[SunMo]

a bar is a meeting place.  you can smoke, drink, talk, play pool, or any number of things there.  a club is the same way.  but keep trying to wriggle out this one.

[ice grillin you]

don't go to a place that allows smoking if it bothers you

every person should have the right to go to public places without having their health affected vs people having the right to do something just cause they feel like it

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Banning smoking in bars is the next step to a world like "Demolition Man", where everything bad for you is against the law including fluid transfer activities, saturated fat, and alcoholic beverages.  Let's work towards that.

[SunMo]

every person should have the right to go to public places without having their health affected vs people having the right to do something just cause they feel like it

and what about my arguement about music in bars or clubs?  that's ok?

[The BIGSTUD]

You are wrong. Clubs are made specifically for playing music. The drinking, etc, are extra benefits.

Bars are made so you can go drink alcohol.

If there was a building made specifically so people could go and do nothing but smoke, then it would be stupid to ban smoking there because only smokers go there. But smokers and non-smokers alike want to go to bars, and drink.

NO ONE is going to go to a club if they don't enjoy the music playing, and it bothers them. All clubs do it.

[ice grillin you]

unless you are actually claiming that the most likely scenario is absolutely no change in the bottom line whatsoever

thats exactly what im claiming...the plus minus difference is negligible

smokers dont stop going to bars because they have to smoke outside

and if you wanna say it helps business then thats even more reason to have smoking bans

[Wingspan]

don't go to a place that allows smoking if it bothers you

every person should have the right to go to public places without having their health affected vs people having the right to do something just cause they feel like it

while the premise is true...bars and restaurants are not public places. they are private establishements that invite the general public to patronize.

[SunMo]

You are wrong. Clubs are made specifically for playing music. The drinking, etc, are extra benefits.

Bars are made so you can go drink alcohol.

If there was a building made specifically so people could go and do nothing but smoke, then it would be stupid to ban smoking there because only smokers go there. But smokers and non-smokers alike want to go to bars, and drink.

NO ONE is going to go to a club if they don't enjoy the music playing, and it bothers them. All clubs do it.

you're arguing the semanitcs of what clubs and bars are for.  i could easily combat that by talking about bars that have bands play, but i won't.  that proves you know that you have no arguement, so that's fine with me.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You are wrong. Clubs are made specifically for playing music. The drinking, etc, are extra benefits.

Bars are made so you can go drink alcohol.

If there was a building made specifically so people could go and do nothing but smoke, then it would be stupid to ban smoking there because only smokers go there. But smokers and non-smokers alike want to go to bars, and drink.

NO ONE is going to go to a club if they don't enjoy the music playing, and it bothers them. All clubs do it.

They should ban white men dancing at clubs, because it endangers the health of other people dancing.

[ice grillin you]

and what about my arguement about music in bars or clubs?

outside of marilyn manson music never killed anyone

[SunMo]

it's bad for my health.  it can damage my ear drums. 

[The BIGSTUD]

Club is a general term. I'd have no problem banning loud music in strip clubs, if it really bothers people. People go there to look at naked women, not listen to music.

But a CLUB is made so you can listen to music. They wouldn't exist without it. It would just become a bar if there was no music/dancing.

[ice grillin you]

it can damage my ear drums

can it...probably

does it...no

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So, anything a person does that may somehow hurt others using the support of politically-charged, sketchy science but certainly does annoy them should be banned/illegal?

I guess that pretty much bans IGY from life.  Thanks for playing, buddy!