Tickets Go On Sale June 14

[Susquehanna Birder]

So it's like I said: the media sucks until you need them. 

They suck regardless.

[Diomedes]

Fair enough.  Doesn't change the fact that you need them from time to time, and when you do, you're more than happy they're there.

And by "you" I mean, everyone who bitches about them.

[MadMarchHare]

Like cops, lawyers and doctors.

[jeffreyjpa]

I've wondered that too...if there are people on a list for season tickets, why are there any single game tickets at all? Is that a contractual obligation the team has to the NFL and/or the City of Philadelphia? Should the people at the top of the waiting list have first crack at them before they go on sale to the public?

Just reporting what the hosts were just saying on WIP, so take it FWIW...these are the current listings for tickets available on two different sites for the Eagles/Cowboys game at the Linc, and they somewhat deflate the conspiracy theory*:

Razorgator (Eagles affiliation)          1,500 (approximate) tickets for sale
Stubhub (no public affiliation)           1,250 (approximate) tickets for sale

* Unless we all believe the Eagles are also co-conspirators with the folks that run Stubhub.

I will say that in the Spring of 2004, the Eagles did an on-line survey of season ticketholders (not sure if of all, but I know I was contacted). One of the questions was to gauge interest in season ticket holders having a team-affiliated vehicle for selling unwanted tickets to other fans, a "fan to fan exchange". As a season ticket holder, I said yes, because it's nice to have the option, and it's somewhere where fans who do not have season tickets have at least the opportunity to buy them. Shortly before the 2005 season, the Eagles made and publicized their affiliation with Razorgator, so this is not new this season, and was something they researched.

Just something to consider. Not all season ticketholders are die-hard fans. I've never sold any tickets above face value to date, personally, but it is a little tempting when the big games come around and you see the ridiculous prices for which people are listing these tickets for sale on-line.

[MURP]

ticket brokers are in it together.   I bet you will find some of the exact same tickets on sale at stubhub and razorgator.

[ice grillin you]

Is that a contractual obligation the team has to the NFL and/or the City of Philadelphia?

not to nfl...the giants and taterskins for example...two other teams with waiting lists...have never had public sale of tickets

One of the questions was to gauge interest in season ticket holders having a team-affiliated vehicle for selling unwanted tickets to other fans, a "fan to fan exchange". As a season ticket holder, I said yes, because it's nice to have the option, and it's somewhere where fans who do not have season tickets have at least the opportunity to buy them

thats all well and good but then the exchange should be done on the eagles website...perhaps thru a ticket exchange board where the tickets cannot be scalped...no nfl team should have an affiliation with a ticket scalping agency

Not all season ticketholders are die-hard fans. I've never sold any tickets above face value to date, personally, but it is a little tempting when the big games come around and you see the ridiculous prices for which people are listing these tickets for sale on-line.

the bigger problem is that not all season ticket holders are fans at all...lots of these seats razorgator has and stubhub as well are seats they bought...so they are the season ticket holder...

bottom line is youre not gonna stop scalping across the board...but to have an an actual business deal with a scalper is just plain wrong...and as for stubhub they list the seat locations of their tickets...the eagles can look those tickets up and find the owner...give them a warning that scalping their tickets will result in a loss of their seats if caught again...

its amazing that fans can blatantly post their tickets on these sites but i have to be careful in the parking lot exchanging money with a friend for a face value ticket for fear that the police will think im scalping

[SunMo]

the eagles can look those tickets up and find the owner...give them a warning that scalping their tickets will result in a loss of their seats if caught again...

1.  Why would they?  They have their season ticket money, they don't care after that.
2.  As long as the people aren't breaking the PA markup law, it shouldn't be a problem. 

[jeffreyjpa]

the bigger problem is that not all season ticket holders are fans at all...lots of these seats razorgator has and stubhub as well are seats they bought...so they are the season ticket holder...

You make good points in your post, but do you know this part to be true? I haven't heard anywhere that any of the tickets on either site are owned by the site. Both sites position themselves as a "fan to fan ticket exchange".

And, when I answered yes to the Eagles' "fan to fan ticket exchange" question, I assumed they would manage it themselves, as well, as I think the Phillies do (or, at least did last season). That's a valid point.

I'd just as soon they sell these seats to new season ticketholders off the list as season tickets then, if that is allowable (as done by the taterskins and Giants), and not sell any single game tickets.

[phattymatty]

1.  Why would they?  They have their season ticket money, they don't care after that.
2.  As long as the people aren't breaking the PA markup law, it shouldn't be a problem. 

It seems to me that they are breaking the PA law on that razorgator site.  the cheapest i see a ticket on there is over $150 a ticket.  thats a bit more than the 110% or whatever it is.

[SunMo]

that's on Razorgator then, in my opinon.  not the Eagles.

[phattymatty]

i am so totally with you

[SunMo]

shut your face.

[ice grillin you]

but do you know this part to be true?

it common knowledge that brokers dont only buy single games seats...in fact they obtain as many season tickets as they can as those tickets will provide them with a much bigger profit...theres no question in my mind that razorgator and other brokers bought as many season tickets as they could when they were still available at the vet

1.  Why would they?  They have their season ticket money, they don't care after that.

ummm because it would show that they care about the fans...and you can say well they obviously dont care about the fans...but that doesnt make it acceptable

2.  As long as the people aren't breaking the PA markup law, it shouldn't be a problem.

if nothing else it allows easy access to tickets for opposing fans...not to mention its completely unfair to eagle fans on the waiting list...i mean dont you want as many real fans owning tickets as possible??...it makes for a better home field advantage...i personally want as few visiting fans as possible in my stadium...the threat of physical violence is slowly fading away at the linc so now all thats left is to make tickets as difficult as possible to get...i dont want the linc turning into fed ex

[Wingspan]

Just reporting what the hosts were just saying on WIP, so take it FWIW...these are the current listings for tickets available on two different sites for the Eagles/Cowboys game at the Linc, and they somewhat deflate the conspiracy theory*:

Razorgator (Eagles affiliation)          1,500 (approximate) tickets for sale
Stubhub (no public affiliation)           1,250 (approximate) tickets for sale

* Unless we all believe the Eagles are also co-conspirators with the folks that run Stubhub.

the sell a lot of the same seats...

[Feva]

The Eagles ain't shtein, y'all.