Sixers offseason

[phattymatty]

i never knew that, i always just thought they picked in order.  kinda dumb.

[ice grillin you]

i know...im saying why do they do that...its a joke...they might as well just have the true order at that point

[hunt]

i know...im saying why do they do that...its a joke...they might as well just have the true order at that point

they're just trying to prevent teams from tanking it to get the 1st pick....teams still tank it (like the cavs did for the lebron draft) but there's no 100% guarantee of the #1 pick for the team with the worst record.

i know the lottery used to determine all the lottery picks, not just 1-3...but they changed that a few years back.  i don't remember why.

[Rome]

i know the lottery used to determine all the lottery picks, not just 1-3...but they changed that a few years back.  i don't remember why.

I don't remember which team it was but someone with the worst record ended up going from a potential #1 pick to like 9th or something.  There was an uproar over it so they changed it the next year.

It was right around the time that Orlando won the Shaquille O'Neal lottery.

Ironically, Orlando came back the next year and won the lottery again despite having almost no chance of doing so.

Man, what a team that could have been... O'Neal, Webber, Horace Grant, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott... sheesh.

[hunt]

i know the lottery used to determine all the lottery picks, not just 1-3...but they changed that a few years back.  i don't remember why.

I don't remember which team it was but someone with the worst record ended up going from a potential #1 pick to like 9th or something.  There was an uproar over it so they changed it the next year.

It was right around the time that Orlando won the Shaquille O'Neal lottery.

Ironically, Orlando came back the next year and won the lottery again despite having almost no chance of doing so.

Man, what a team that could have been... O'Neal, Webber, Horace Grant, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott... sheesh.

take it to the magic offseason thread, mickey mouse!

[Rome]

 

[BigEd76]

I don't remember if the old system (11 balls for the worst team, 10 balls for the 2nd-worst team, etc., down to 1 ball for the best non-playoff team) determined all 11 spots.  I thought that one only did the top three as well.  The outcry was over the 11-71 Mavericks falling to 4th, the 19-63 T'Wolves falling to 5th and the 22-60 Bullets falling to 6th while the 41-41 Magic had one ball in the lottery and ended up winning the thing, like Rome said, and the 34-48 Warriors ended up 3rd, so they changed to the heavily-weighted system in 1994...

[ice grillin you]

The outcry was over the 11-71 Mavericks falling to 4th, the 19-63 T'Wolves falling to 5th and the 22-60 Bullets falling to 6th while the 41-41 Magic had one ball in the lottery and ended up winning the thing, like Rome said, and the 34-48 Warriors ended up 3rd, so they changed to the heavily-weighted system in 1994...

i understand this concern...but my thing is if you dont like the results of a lottery then dont have one

[hunt]

The NBA Draft Lottery is an annual event selecting the top three picks of the following NBA Draft. First established in 1985, it was at first a chance drawing for all first-round picks, with all non-playoff teams (in 1985 there were seven non-playoff teams in the National Basketball Association) having equal chance of landing the number one pick. The New York Knicks won the lottery in 1985 and made Patrick Ewing the number one pick.
Some in the NBA were concerned about results when the worst team, the Golden State Warriors, drew the seventh and final lottery draft position. Also, controversy over the envelope of the New York Knicks also developed.
In 1986, many lottery teams had traded their first-round draft picks, and as a result, the top two teams in the Draft Lottery were playoff teams, with the eventual NBA champion Boston Celtics picking second, a pick (the late Len Bias) which would eventually haunt the franchise. The Philadelphia 76ers, who won the lottery on the draw from a trade with the then-San Diego Clippers in the late 1970s where the Clippers picked up Joe Bryant in return for the 1986 first-round pick, traded it to Cleveland afterwards.
Thus began a rule change beginning in 1987 when only the top three picks would be selected by the traditional lottery, again with the same policy.
In 1990, however, the NBA changed the format of the lottery to give the worst team the most chances of landing the top pick. For the 11 non-playoff teams that season, the team with the worst record would have 11 chances, the second worse would have 10, etc. However, the Orlando Magic defied the odds by gaining two number one picks consecutively, despite the fact that they were the best non-playoff team the second year.
Thus, beginning with the 1995 lottery the chances were weighed even more, so that the best non-playoff team would only have a slim (0.5%) chance of receiving the top pick.
Thus, the term "lottery pick" in the NBA usually denotes a pick in the first fourteen and developed the reference of "lottery" to non-playoff teams in any sport.

anyway, here are the complete odds for this year's lottery:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft_Lottery

[SunMo]

do you like speculation from a guy on another board, who got it from another board, who got it from an "insider"?  if so, this is for you...

Hey Rex, how are you ? well I hope. Since I can no longer post on the
board, but I still like you, and alot of others there, I thought I
might
pass on some insider news for you to tell everyone to keep an eye on.
Yesterday I talked to one of my friends at the L.A.Daily News and he
said as it goes to the 76ers, that he said yes, the Ivy to Atlanta deal
is very Hot. The only hold up right now is that Philly wants not only
the Hawks 1st rounder in this draft, but their one in 2008 along with a
re-signed Harrington. He also said that there is huge talk between the
Sixers and Seattle, in which Seattle has offered up Ray Allen, and
another player to match salaries for Chris Webber AND Iggy. The point
being that Seattle wants Webber's contract which expiores way earlier
than Allen's does, and a young potential star in Iggy. No idea who the
other player from Seattle is though. Would love you to ask Kevin to
check into this one cause, I really don't want to see Iggy go anywhere.

[hunt]

looking at salaries, it could be any of the following:

danny fortson...most likely, imo.
earl watson...not really a need if sixers have an a1/allen backcourt.
rashard lewis...doubt it would be him but would be a steal for the sixers if it is.
and possibly chris wilcox in a sign & trade.

[phattymatty]

any deal that could land us ray allen and get rid of webber at the same time is great for the sixers.  regardless of who else is involved.  even igoudala, who i would like to keep.  getting fortson wouldn't be that bad.  he's getting old but is still a great rebounder with some toughness, unlike chrissy.

[ice grillin you]

id love to get wilcox...he blew up once seattle gave him real minutes...but i cant imagine they dont sign him long term

[hunt]

yeah...fortson was recently voted the dirtiest player in the nba.  the sixers could definitely use a guy like that.

[Dillen]

Who would be on your short list of players to look at?

-Marcus Williams
-Rodney Carney
-Mardy Collins
-Shelden Williams
-Ronnie Brewer


I really dont know. It really depends if we get lucky and get the 3rd pick, or have to be at 13 or 14.