Mocks

Don Ho · April 21, 2006, 04:13:43 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2006, 11:40:06 AM
theres a draft kid from yahoo on with gargano now

--hes saying the draft is way bigger than the superbowl

--loves addai

Sure seems that way. Every where I've been the draft is the main topic for any sports fan. No one gives a rats ass about baseball, hockey playoffs, NBA playoffs. I was on the Big island of Hawaii this week and ran into one of my customers in a grocery store and we talked about the draft for an hour in the cereal aisle! I was very impressed with his knowledge as he said he'd love to see the birds take Sims.

Don Ho · April 21, 2006, 04:19:26 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 21, 2006, 11:40:06 AM

--loves addai

Almost forgot, this kid will be the steal of the draft. I love him to.

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 04:00:11 PM

Hugh Douglas on WIP said he doesn't get the feeling that they like Ngata, Bunkley or any of the names being thrown around. He thinks they'll take Gabe Watson at 14, because he's heard from people on the Eagles that they really like him.

Take it FWIW.

MURP · April 22, 2006, 04:06:23 PM

wouldnt be surprised considering that Watson isnt being mentoned there... Im not a fan of taking him at 14 at all, but if Bunkley and Ngata are gone I guess they may be worried their guy wont be there later on.

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 04:14:08 PM

I'd rather take Chad Jackson at 14 than Watson. If we don't get Walker, then Chad Jackson in round 1 is a must. Simply because he's the best WR available for this system and there is plenty of talent in the 2nd round for DT. Like Watson who is a 2nd round guy, and Wroten. Even if he is a bit of a reach, it's better than trading down 3 spots and having someone take him right before you, because Jackson will go in the 17-20 range.

phillymic2000 · April 22, 2006, 04:20:13 PM

Why do we need jackson, we are getting Walker

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 04:21:46 PM

Did you even read the post?

phillymic2000 · April 22, 2006, 04:22:28 PM

Nope

I just think it's funny you believe we will get Walker.

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 04:22:54 PM

Funny how?

phillymic2000 · April 22, 2006, 04:23:37 PM

Like a clown

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 04:25:40 PM

You didn't explain why it's funny to think we have a shot to get Walker. Probably because you have nothing to logically back yourself up.

phillymic2000 · April 22, 2006, 04:33:24 PM

Why do I not think the Eagles will get him, hmmmm. well, for one he's pulled a mini T.O. on the packers either last year or the year before where he wanted an extension to his contract. He is coming off a big injury, The F.O. would have to give up draft picks, The entire franchise and fan based was just used and abused by T.O. (shell shock maybe). The F.O. except for the one deal for T.O. do not value the WR position enough to get studs. We are 15 plus mil under the cap, thats a little too close for Banner already, he might need to save some cash if Westy goes down and he has to sign Levens again. They have not gone after (as far as we know, and other then Howard) any other big time name this offseason. Now you expect them to get Walker with GB giving them up to a conference rival? Yeah I say it won't happen, let's here your logic behind the deal.

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 04:45:25 PM

Quote from: phillymic2000 on April 22, 2006, 04:33:24 PM
Why do I not think the Eagles will get him, hmmmm. well, for one he's pulled a mini T.O. on the packers either last year or the year before where he wanted an extension to his contract. He is coming off a big injury, The F.O. would have to give up draft picks, The entire franchise and fan based was just used and abused by T.O. (shell shock maybe). The F.O. except for the one deal for T.O. do not value the WR position enough to get studs. We are 15 plus mil under the cap, thats a little too close for Banner already, he might need to save some cash if Westy goes down and he has to sign Levens again. They have not gone after (as far as we know, and other then Howard) any other big time name this offseason. Now you expect them to get Walker with GB giving them up to a conference rival? Yeah I say it won't happen, let's here your logic behind the deal.

You are a bitter grumpy negadelphian. I don't even think you are worth my time to comment to this dread of a post, but I'll humor you and respond anyway.

For one, Walker is completely unrelated to TO. He never trashed his own teammates and never caused any problems. The Eagles didn't cut TO loose because he held out. Players have down that here before(Westbrook last year even). The Eagles cut TO loose because he caused so many locker room problems it was a joke. So your point on that has nothing to do with anything.

Coming off a big injury... well yeah, he is. But who doesn't recover from ACL injuries these days? For every 1 player that doesn't 15 players do recover from it. Hell, McGahee recovered from the worst knee injury I've ever seen. With today's modern technology and medicine, this isn't as much of a concern as it used to be.

The Eagles do value the position and having to give up draft picks isn't a big deal. They've said before if they really want a player, they'll go after him strongly. If the Broncos outbid the Eagles then so be it, but I don't see the Eagles lowballing the Packers in a trade offer.

15 million under the cap, and that's a little too close already? Please, your bitterness and negativity is oozing out of your pores. Just come out and say you hate the way this team does business already. I know that is where you are getting at.

What do other big name free agents have to do with Walker? The Eagles sign players who they like. They've said this before. It's not about shying away from big names or getting players on discounts. If a player is out there that they truly like, then they will go after them. They obviously didn't like this crop of free agents. Andy loved Walker since FSU. I think Andy would love to have him here.

You sound like a person who has no confidence whatsoever in this front office. It is the reason I made that topic. Some posters here just think the Eagles are allergic to big-time players. If you have any confidence in this front office, then you'll think they will go after Walker. Whether or not they get him is a different story, but if you don't think they'll do their best to get him, then saying you have confidence in this front office is a lie. After the disappointing offseason, a lot of posters have been mentally drained IMO. There was so much excitement for a lot of players, and after a lot of them didn't come here, everyone's tune has changed. Now we have no shot at anybody apparently. If a player is a big name, then cross him off your list, because we have no shot at him.

That is what I call bitter.

phillymic2000 · April 22, 2006, 04:58:03 PM

Oh please man, I am not bitter or a negawhatever. I have chosen not to get too excited at possible Free Agent moves by the Front Office.

Salary Cap= how much were we under all of last year? it had to be at least 10 mil the entire season, thats why I am doubting on the cap point.

Wr position= other then T.O. what wr would be called a #1 ? Pinky/Lewis/Brown (Na not Reggie)/Freddie/Johnson/Small

Injury= and injury is still an injury.

Walker and teammates= Yeah him and Favre were just buddy buddy during his "negotiations".

I have confidence in this F.O. they have brought this city and it's fans a lot of success we have not seen in some time over the past few years. What I am concerned about is the fact that every other team in the NFC East is continuing to add quality players. Every East team has a better WR crew then the birds and we pass the most, thats not a concern to you? and as far as me lieing if I don't think the Eagles will go after him is bunk. What after all is said and done it comes out that the Eagles F.O. didn't really pursue him, what will you say then. You have no clue what the F.O. will do just as I don't either. I don'tthink they are interested in Walker, you do. If that makes you think you a better Eagles fan then me then yes that makes me laugh really hard.

The BIGSTUD · April 22, 2006, 05:25:36 PM

Quote from: phillymic2000 on April 22, 2006, 04:58:03 PM
Oh please man, I am not bitter or a negawhatever. I have chosen not to get too excited at possible Free Agent moves by the Front Office.

Salary Cap= how much were we under all of last year? it had to be at least 10 mil the entire season, thats why I am doubting on the cap point.

Wr position= other then T.O. what wr would be called a #1 ? Pinky/Lewis/Brown (Na not Reggie)/Freddie/Johnson/Small

Injury= and injury is still an injury.

Walker and teammates= Yeah him and Favre were just buddy buddy during his "negotiations".

I have confidence in this F.O. they have brought this city and it's fans a lot of success we have not seen in some time over the past few years. What I am concerned about is the fact that every other team in the NFC East is continuing to add quality players. Every East team has a better WR crew then the birds and we pass the most, thats not a concern to you? and as far as me lieing if I don't think the Eagles will go after him is bunk. What after all is said and done it comes out that the Eagles F.O. didn't really pursue him, what will you say then. You have no clue what the F.O. will do just as I don't either. I don'tthink they are interested in Walker, you do. If that makes you think you a better Eagles fan then me then yes that makes me laugh really hard.

Quality players like who? Randle El? Bum. Lloyd? Average. Arrington? Average. TO? Good but a problem. Fabini? Sucks.

I don't see all this great talent the NFC East added. The Eagles added as good of players as anyone in the NFC East.