Please god, let this be true

[Feva]

One good thing we have going for us is that Walker is no longer represented by Rosenscum. But what does he think he's worth? That's the real question here. Does he realize his injury has dropped his value? Does he think he's worth a contract worthy of a top 5 receiver?

In the end, I think he'll end up getting a pretty nice contract from whoever he signs with that will be somewhere up there anyway.  Wayne signed what... 6/7 years, $39 million?  I can definitely see him losing some money due to the injury, but I think he'll fall somewhere in the park of say 6/7 years, $30-35 million, $5-6 million SB.  The difference is that the deal will have all sorts of injury clauses and LTBE's to ensure the team doesn't get screwed.  I do think he understands that.

[mussa]

too lazy to look back, but did anyone ever post javon walker's career stats? do u sign a guy w/ one great year(unsure of this stat) who seems to have all the tools to being a premiere WR and who is young, but on the other hand he went through a nasty injury last year and some drama with the team.  im all for it.  i think walker is going to be a great WR.  if we pick him up i will feel very confident about our chances at getting back to the offense we had 2 years ago.  the thing that worries me about our FO is that he is really an unproven WR at this point, but has alot of potential. do they give him what he wants or do they offer him what they offer him and say take it or leave it.  i'd say the later and i hope javon wants to win games and is not too money driven. 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He had a very decent 2nd season with over 700 yards, 9 TD's, and a 17+ yard average per catch.

Walker's stats

[Wingspan]

He had a very decent 2nd season with over 700 yards, 9 TD's, and a 17+ yard average per catch.

Walker's stats

Exhibit A.
63   833yds   13.2   8 TDs
Exhibit B.
65 815yds 9TDs
Exhibit C.
60 798yds 7TDs

answers
A. 2001 James Thrash
B. 1998 Charles Johnson
C. 2002 Todd Pinkston

[DH]

Yea, but none of those guys only started 3 games to get those numbers. Also, none of those guys followed that season with a 1400 yard/12TD season.

[The BIGSTUD]

Exhibit D.

89 1382yds 12TDs

answer

D. 2004 Javon Walker

[sharpie]

Exihibit X

2004 Green Bay Packers 12 Games started  89 catches 1382 yards  15.5 YPC  12 TD's

Now thats what a #1 WR looks like

[Geowhizzer]

Exhibit ACL:

[Wingspan]

Yea, but none of those guys only started 3 games to get those numbers. Also, none of those guys followed that season with a 1400 yard/12TD season.

true.

and i am not discounting walker at all. but if those numbers are a "very decent year" as fastfreddie states, then it should be looked at in perspective.

[Wingspan]

walkers injury should not be discounted...and he would be hard pressed to repeat his 2004 #'s this season.

which is probably why the eagles would want him to sign an extension before they traded for him.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

I think the difference with Walker from the other guys in the exibits is that Walker had his coming out party in his third year. He stats progressively climbed where he boomed in his third year. Let's look at other top WR's first three years:


Terrel Owens:
YR    Team  Games    Rec      Yards            TDs
1996   SF   16              35         520             4    
1997   SF   16              60         936             8    
1998   SF   16              67        1097          14

Randy Moss*:
YR    Team  Games    Rec       Yards           TDs
1998   MIN   16             69      1313            17    
1999   MIN   16             80      1413            11    
2000   MIN   16             77      1437            15

Chad Johnson:
YR    Team  Games    Rec       Yards      TDs
2001   CIN   12             28        329         1    
2002   CIN   16             69      1166         5    
2003   CIN   16             90      1355        10

Javon Walker:
YR    Team  Games    Rec       Yards      TDs
2002   GNB   15             23        319         1    
2003   GNB   16             41        716         9    
2004   GNB   16             89      1382        12

*Moss is always going to be an exception.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Yea, but none of those guys only started 3 games to get those numbers. Also, none of those guys followed that season with a 1400 yard/12TD season.

true.

and i am not discounting walker at all. but if those numbers are a "very decent year" as fastfreddie states, then it should be looked at in perspective.

Well, your perspective stinks.  Both Thrash and Johnson were supposed #1 WR's at the time they put up those numbers.  Pinkston was a starter opposite a player who always drew double coverage away from him.

Walker was a slot guy in his 2nd season.  All I'm saying is that he showed a ton of promise in 2003 and followed that up in 2004 with a complete stud-like season.  So, he's not a one-hit wonder, unless his ACL holds him back.

[mussa]

  on all the stats. 

[The BIGSTUD]

I'm pretty sure Moss has the best first 3 years as a WR than any in history.

[Don Ho]

Let's sign this farger already!