College Players The Eagles Are Interested In

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The opinion from the internet football site is at least as valid as yours, in general.

If not, you'd be living the dream and working for one of those sites.

[ice grillin you]

The opinion from the internet football site is at least as valid as yours, in general.

as long as theyve seen both players play i totally agree

but trying to prove that moss isnt a player by posting some highlites of a random football sites opinion is weaker than seven days

should i now go to another site that raves about moss and post that with the really juicy parts highlited

[SunMo]

i don't get "weaker than seven days", please explain.

and i knew that avatar wouldn't last long.

[MURP]

one thing for Moss... the dude has played with complete junk at QB. 

[PhillyPhanInDC]

All the article was posted for was to counterpoint some of your opinions on the guy. Statistically speaking, he is no better the top rated WRs in the draft, and to compare him to Bloom is fair in my opinion. Would Bloom be equivalent or better than Moss? I think it is a fair question.

Here is a Don Banks excerpt from SI.com on players that could have an immediate impact on a team:

Sinorice Moss, receiver/return man, Miami -- This one comes with a caveat: The Hurricanes mighty-mite has to go to a team that knows how to use his versatile package of skills in order for him to make a splash as a rookie. Are you paying attention Pittsburgh at No. 32?

"The Steelers would know how to use that guy,'' said a veteran personnel man. "They're one of the teams that could get a lot out of Moss right away, using him in that Antwaan Randle El role. If he goes somewhere like that, where he'll catch the ball, help you in the return game, and they'll find creative ways to get him the ball, he could make an impact this year.''

But any hopes he has of becoming the difference-maker that his older brother, Santana, was in Washington last season starts with staying healthy. Which he was not always able to do at Miami.

"From a talent standpoint, yes, this guy has some tremendous talent and could make an impact for you,'' a personnel man said. "But is he ever going to make it to the field? He's hurt every spring, and he's hurt every season. He always has a problem of some sort. He couldn't even run this spring because he was injured. He's a difference-making talent, but he hasn't been able to stay on the field in the Fall or even in spring ball.''

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

one thing for Moss... the dude has played with complete junk at QB. 

What future Pro Bowlers has Bloom caught balls from?

[MURP]

one thing for Moss... the dude has played with complete junk at QB. 

What future Pro Bowlers has Bloom caught balls from?

  Im not comparing the two.  Just talking about Moss in general.

[ice grillin you]

"But is he ever going to make it to the field? He's hurt every spring, and he's hurt every season. He always has a problem of some sort. He couldn't even run this spring because he was injured. He's a difference-making talent, but he hasn't been able to stay on the field in the Fall or even in spring ball.''


he definitely comes with risks...ive stated that...especially the injury thing...but imo its worth the risk to get a playmaker like that...

i just think the eagles lack big time playmakers...its their biggest need imo...which is why i shy away this year from taking a lineman...i know how important the lines are but they need players on both sides of the ball that the other team will fear and would have to be accountable for...moss would be one of those players

its why my ideal scenario this year is for them to get moss and thomas howard
why id rather have ernie sims than winston justice
why i would trade up for huff but not ngata

[MURP]

why id rather have ernie sims than winston justice
why i would trade up for huff but not ngata

I dunno, but if the Eagles lines arnt solid they are not going anywhere.

[ice grillin you]

i disagree...with playmakers around the lines you can get away with solid or just good...you dont necessarily have to have great lines to win

look at the steelers defense...granted they run a 3-4 but their line isnt anything to write home about...but they surround it with guys that fly around the field and make plays

what you cant have is bad lines

[PhillyPhanInDC]

My point is with Moss is that he hasn't demonstrated any reliable ability to be a "playmaker", he has talent, speed, and pedigree to an extent, but does he have enough of that to warrant a first round pick? No, in my opinion.

There are guys behind him who have demonstrated similar ability and measurables, and if you can use that early pick on a more needed position, like the either of the lines, or LB, you do it and get another of the Moss type guys who you can get at somewhat of a discount. In my eyes guys like Moss, Bloom, and even Randle El are one or none type of guys. You give them ball 15-20 times and get little to nothing, but on that sixteenth pass or end around, they break it. Is that worth a high round selection?

[MURP]

well the 3-4 is another thing altogether..  but I would disagree anyway.  I think Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, and Kimo von Oelhoffen were a pretty darn good line for what they do. 

[ice grillin you]

and if you can use that early pick on a more needed position, like the either of the lines, or LB, you do it and get another of the Moss type guys who you can get at somewhat of a discount

there is no more need position than wr on the eagles...and there isnt anything they need more than a playmaker

There are guys behind him who have demonstrated similar ability and measurables

no there arent...but if you truly believe that jeremy bloom or skyler green are on par with moss then we will just have to agree to disagree

[PhillyPhanInDC]

no there arent...but if you truly believe that jeremy bloom or skyler green are on par with moss then we will just have to agree to disagree

IN.*

I'm not disagreeing that the Birds need a playmaker and a stud WR, and if there was a no-shtein, sure-fire one available to them I'd be all for it. I just don't think that Moss isn't going to turn into one. I think he'll wind up returning punts and/or kicks on occasion, and only be on the field as a WR in four wide sets or due to other injuries.

*I don't even know what that means.........exactly.

[SD_Eagle5]

Chris McPherson is hosting Eagles Live right now. Talking lots of stuff about the draft.

One interesting note: Says last season they were all set to take Khalif Barnes (exactly who I thought they'd select) then Andy changed his mind the last minute and selected Patterson instead.