Breakdown of Reids drafts

Started by MURP, April 10, 2006, 12:36:02 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

It is interesting that your initial ill-founded conclusion actually matches up somewhat close to reality, yes.  Very.

Wingspan

Quote from: MURP on April 10, 2006, 12:36:02 PM
I find it interesting that a coach who talks about how the guys upfront are the most important parts on the team has spent 24% of his draft picks on offensive skill positions in WR's and RB's. 

2/5 of the line was set with runyon and thomas, and 3/5 if you count mayberry.

you're looking at filling only half the line...2 or 3 players, as opposed to 6 other spots (5 not counting mcnabb)
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Wingspan on April 10, 2006, 03:08:23 PM
you're looking at filling only half the line...2 or 3 players, as opposed to 6 other spots (5 not counting mcnabb)

4.  3 WR's and 1 RB or 2 WR's and 2 RB's.  MURP wasn't including TE's.

No doubt the Eagles have "over-picked" those positions (WR/RB), because so many of the guys they've drafted there have been complete losers... partially because some were picked quite late in the draft, and partially just because.

Don Ho

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 10, 2006, 02:02:17 PM
S - JR Reed, Norman Lejeune, Michael Lewis, Damon Moore, Considine - C

i might give the Safety grade a B+ as we all know JR Reed was/is going to be a player and Damon Moore I felt was a very good safety who never recovered from blowing his knee out against the Rams in NFCG.
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ice grillin you

i might give the Safety grade a B+ as we all know JR Reed was/is going to be a player and Damon Moore I felt was a very good safety who never recovered from blowing his knee out against the Rams in NFCG.

moore sucked and there was zero indication that reed would have ever been anything but a great KR

i can live with a B there if one chose...b+ no way
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igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MadMarchHare

By that same notion, one could argue they drafted Reed to specifically be a KR, and lumping him in with the safeties is inaccurate.
Anyone but Reid.

ice grillin you

yes and if true that would raise the overall draft grade
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

DutchBird


When looking at these, I try and disregard injuries. I do not know what the previous injury history is. And injuries can happen to anyone.

WR - McMullen,  Milons, Mitchell, Pinkston, Gari Scott, Na Brown, Troy Smith, R. Brown - D-

The only thing IMHO keeping this from a big F was 4 and 26 and the once in a while catches from Pinkston. And the possible future of R. Brown (and that outweighs Pinky and Mitchell).

DE - McDougle, Green, Raheem Brock, Burgess, John Frank, Cole - C+

This one, IMHO is actually hard to grade. Injuries are hard to control (especially people being shot), in McDougle amd Green. Brock was a good pick up however lost in numbers (and did some nice things in Indy), Burgess was alright (and superb this year), Cole showed flashes. The only 100% failure I see so far is John Frank.

RB - Tapeh, Bruce Perry, Westy, CBUCK, Thomas Hamner, Moats - B

Westbrook was a steal, the problem with CBuck are his injuries, Tapeh, Perry and Moats seem to be very nice. The one glaring problem with these seems to be a big back (only CBuck slightly fits that mold, but he has his injuries). So as far as players picked I feel I have to give a B. As far as type of RB's picked it is IMHO a D+ (but that is not being judged here).

G - Shawn Andrews, Trey Darilek, Adrien Clarke, Jeremy Bridges, Doug Brzezinski, Welbourn, S Young - B-

This list includes 4 decent starters. Not bad, IMHO.

S - JR Reed, Norman Lejeune, Michael Lewis, Damon Moore, Considine - B+

Lewis and Moore were superb picks. Reed seemed at least decent. However, both Moore and probably Reed have succumbed to injuries. Considine seemed to have been buried on the depth chart.

LB - Tyreo Harrion, Quinton Caver, Barry Gardner, McCoy, Bergeron - F-

This list largely leaves me with the feeling of "Who are these guys?" That should indeed warrant no more then an F- (more correctly would have been a Z).

CB - Dexter Wynn, Lito, Sheldon, Matt Ware - A+

Okay... Pro Bowl CB, should be Pro Bowl CB, at least serviceable nickel CB, decent dime CB and buried on the depth chart behind arguably the best 3 CB set in the league (Sheppard, Brown and Hood) and a decent nickel CB. Seriously, IMHO, you could hardly wish for more... My guess is that most if not all franchises in the league would break the bank for this group (and Hood as rooky UFA).

OT -  Bobbie Williams, Herremans, Armstrong -  C

DT-  Corey Simon, Pernell Davis, Patterson, Marshall -C-

Simon got worse, Patterson has looked good so far, Pernell Who? and Marshall might eventually pan out.

QB-  McNabb, Feeley, Hall - A

McNabb, IMHO one of the best QB's in the league. Feeley above all what the were able to ship him for to Miami.

C -   Dominic Furio, Scott Peters, John Romero - F

Thank God for the waiver wire and rookie FA's.

TE-   LJ Smith, Tony Stewart, Jed Weaver - B-

FB-   Cecil Martin - C

Cecil was no superstar, but still very decent as a FB.


FINAL GRADE C-

The C- is above all the result of the utter failure in drafting LB's, and the severe problem in drafting WR's. The failure in LB's has been hidden by the superb backfield we have. The lack of support on offense however has cost us dearly time and again. The only one that IMHO deserve a (marginal) passing grade for that group are Pinkston and Brown. And the only one IMHO who could still improve is Brown.


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