College Players The Eagles Are Interested In

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Patt, by the way.....got a couple of websites pushing Manny Lawson hard right now but saying he's too small for LB DE and too slow for DE LB. His 40 times are skewed all over the place...what r u seeing? He looks like a friggin beast though

I saw a decent amount of Lawson, because NCSU is always on TV down here.  He's 6'6", 245 or so, but certainly has the frame to add more weight.  He's currently being repeatedly called a "tweener", and pundits think he'd best be suited for OLB in a 3-4.

HOWEVER, Trent Cole was the same way.  He's (Cole) already up to 260+ (according to an interview Spadaro did with him), and is exactly what the Eagles like in a DE.  Kearse is listed at 6'4", 265, but he probably plays at more like 255.  I see Lawson as Kearse.  He's not *quite* as fast, but he'll also end up being bigger.  He fits the Eagles prototype of a DE, which is why I think there is actually a good chance that they draft him at #14.

But passing on a great proven college RB, who had a great game at the highest level in college, and is projected to be a top 20 pick. Plus you are a team that desperately needs a big back that can run between the tackles, and he falls that far and you don't take him?

Yes, it would possibly be the dumbest draft day move in NFL history.

You are continually proving your lack of football acumen AND your lack of ability to use recent history and the tendencies of this front office to assist with your decisions.

[The BIGSTUD]

I wouldn't approve of that pick. The Eagles draft down the line too often. Draft a player you need now, not someone you will need 2 years from now. You are always going to need to replace players eventually, so drafting for years later is a never-ending process. No matter what your team is, you'll always be able to look 2 or 3 years down the road and see a starter that will be at the end of a contract or old that you'll need to replace. Worry about that then, address your weaknesses now.

There is no reason to draft DE in the first round with Kearse, Howard, and Cole here. None. Not when you have glaring weaknesses at SAM, WR, DT, OG/C, and RB.

[The BIGSTUD]

You are continually proving your lack of football acumen AND your lack of ability to use recent history and the tendencies of this front office to assist with your decisions.

Recent history doesn't matter to me. Each occasion stands alone. We know the Eagles want a big back in here. At least according to the rumors out there. They won't take White in the first round, but to pass on him at 45? Cmon, that's crazy talk. Westbrook was a 3rd round pick, after the first round, I say it's fair game for the Eagles. You can't use recent history in this situation because, while players like Steven Jackson have been available when the Eagles have picked in the past, how often has a player of White's caliber fallen 20+ picks?

You can't compare this scenario with recent history.

[reese125]

You are continually proving your lack of football acumen AND your lack of ability to use recent history and the tendencies of this front office to assist with your decisions.

Recent history doesn't matter to me. Each occasion stands alone. We know the Eagles want a big back in here. At least according to the rumors out there. They won't take White in the first round, but to pass on him at 45? Cmon, that's crazy talk. Westbrook was a 3rd round pick, after the first round, I say it's fair game for the Eagles. You can't use recent history in this situation because, while players like Steven Jackson have been available when the Eagles have picked in the past, how often has a player of White's caliber fallen 20+ picks?

You can't compare this scenario with recent history.

not a chance in hell he goes past 25...too good regardless if he's a meatball now.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

There is no reason to draft DE in the first round with Kearse, Howard, and Cole here. None. Not when you have glaring weaknesses at SAM, WR, DT, OG/C, and RB.

Kearse was overworked last year and could really use fewer snaps.
If Howard is Howard of 2005 and not Howard of 2004 and prior, he's basically useless.
Cole should be a beast, but is still unproven.
The Eagles use a 4-man rotation at DE.

SAM - Anyone reasonably available at #14 I should know about that would be an improvement at SAM?  I think any player they'd take to address that position would be a severe reach or off the board (Hawk).
WR - Chad Jackson is a possibility also at #14.  Sure.  Even Santonio Holmes, I guess.
DT - If Ngata or Bunkley are actually on the board, it would be silly not to go for it.  But will either be there?
OG/C - See SAM description.
RB - The Eagles signed Westbrook to be a starter.  They like Moats.  They don't value the "big back" as you'd like them to, no matter how hard you close your eyes and wish for it.  They ARE NOT going to draft a RB at #14.  Get over it.

Recent history doesn't matter to me. Each occasion stands alone. We know the Eagles want a big back in here. At least according to the rumors out there.

There are so many problems with your "logic":

1.  Recent history should matter to you, because a pattern can certainly be found.
2.  Rumors could mean something, and they could not.  You're referring to Eskin, I take it?
3.  "want a big back in here" does not come close to "using a first round pick to get a big back" -- Not even close.  The team will acquire another Dorsey Levens or Lamar Gordon and not spend a cherished draft pick on a "big" back to compliment their starter, Westbrook.

[reese125]

KFFL reports: The Philadelphia Eagles will have a pre-draft visit with Oklahoma OG Chris Chester at an unspecified date.

Chris Chester is a 6-foot-4, 300-pound offensive lineman from Oklahoma who will be competing for a starting role in the NFL this season. Originally a tight end, turned center, who also gained valuable experience at the guard position, Chester possesses the athleticism and versatility to play multiple positions at the pro level – a real advantage heading into April's NFL Draft.

He raised his stock significantly at the NFL Combine last month in Indianapolis, blowing away the competition at his position with a 4.90 40-yard dash and a 3-cone agility time of 7.31 seconds. No one else at his position completed the 3-cone in less than 7.4 seconds. And only one other center, Boston College's Pat Ross, ran a sub-5.0 dash, posting a 4.97 result. Chester was also tops in the broad jump (8-10), vertical jump (31.5) and had the fourth-best bench press with 27 reps.


Were still looking for talent at that center position right? Might be a good 4th rounder.....

[The BIGSTUD]

There is no reason to draft DE in the first round with Kearse, Howard, and Cole here. None. Not when you have glaring weaknesses at SAM, WR, DT, OG/C, and RB.

Kearse was overworked last year and could really use fewer snaps.
If Howard is Howard of 2005 and not Howard of 2004 and prior, he's basically useless.
Cole should be a beast, but is still unproven.
The Eagles use a 4-man rotation at DE.

SAM - Anyone reasonably available at #14 I should know about that would be an improvement at SAM?  I think any player they'd take to address that position would be a severe reach or off the board (Hawk).
WR - Chad Jackson is a possibility also at #14.  Sure.  Even Santonio Holmes, I guess.
DT - If Ngata or Bunkley are actually on the board, it would be silly not to go for it.  But will either be there?
OG/C - See SAM description.
RB - The Eagles signed Westbrook to be a starter.  They like Moats.  They don't value the "big back" as you'd like them to, no matter how hard you close your eyes and wish for it.  They ARE NOT going to draft a RB at #14.  Get over it.

Recent history doesn't matter to me. Each occasion stands alone. We know the Eagles want a big back in here. At least according to the rumors out there.

There are so many problems with your "logic":

1.  Recent history should matter to you, because a pattern can certainly be found.
2.  Rumors could mean something, and they could not.  You're referring to Eskin, I take it?
3.  "want a big back in here" does not come close to "using a first round pick to get a big back" -- Not even close.  The team will acquire another Dorsey Levens or Lamar Gordon and not spend a cherished draft pick on a "big" back to compliment their starter, Westbrook.

If Howard is the Howard if 2005, then that would be a terrible signing then, huh? The Eagles seem to be working out a lot of LBs, so obviously they see some potential guys there that could help this team.

As for the Lendale thing, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see this team going down the cheap and available back route again. They learned their lesson. I think they want a guy they can sign long-term and put this weakness away for a while.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Lendale is a bum.

And he won't be there at 45. And even if he was the Eagles wouldn't draft him. So save your keystrokes and argue about something else.

He'll be a Bronco or a Steeler.

[The BIGSTUD]

Lendale isn't a bum. My how people have soured on him because he refused to do a few workouts and drills.

Did you forget how he played in college? He's a stud, and a franchise back.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Sorry, but I like guys who don't coast on their talent and act like the NFL is a god given right to them. Bust your ass and do the workouts.

Even at USC he has a rep for being a slacker.

And regardless, the Eagles ain't picking him.

[The BIGSTUD]

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that a team "in the mid-teens" already has told USC RB LenDale White that it plans on drafting him (hello, Coach Kevlar).

Found that on PFT.com

[ice grillin you]

Lendale isn't a bum. My how people have soured on him because he refused to do a few workouts and drills.


welcome to the last ten years and the combination of nauseating over promotion of the draft and the internet which has created an army of think they know it all super geeked out 'draftniks'

[reese125]

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that a team "in the mid-teens" already has told USC RB LenDale White that it plans on drafting him (hello, Coach Kevlar).

Found that on PFT.com

reported on pg 23 of this thread.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

FWIW, from Spadaro:

Who is the very best player in this draft? Better still, who will be the best player from this draft in four years? I say it won't be Reggie Bush. I think he'll be an excellent player, but I don't see Bush as a player who changes a franchise. I think it's defensive back Michael Huff. Now, this is purely a name I'm throwing out. I don't study the draft. But I like a kid who has that much versatility in the secondary.

Maybe Estidude was right, and the Eagles are going to trade up for Huff.

[Drunkmasterflex]

FWIW, from Spadaro:

Who is the very best player in this draft? Better still, who will be the best player from this draft in four years? I say it won't be Reggie Bush. I think he'll be an excellent player, but I don't see Bush as a player who changes a franchise. I think it's defensive back Michael Huff. Now, this is purely a name I'm throwing out. I don't study the draft. But I like a kid who has that much versatility in the secondary.

Maybe Estidude was right, and the Eagles are going to trade up for Huff.

I would be shocked if they did so, can't say that I would mind it though.