The Start Of Free Agency To Be Delayed? (CBA Extension Talk)

[ice grillin you]

if its a agreed upon that revenue sharing is good for the league and essential to its livelyhood then they damn well should bend over and give up the cheese...especially when they all have more money than god...if revenue sharing is not necessary in the nfl then i wouldnt blame them for saying farg off

but its i think its pretty much agreed upon by most people that revenue sharing is crucial to keeping the nfl what it is today..and that is the most pupular sport in the country by far...so if they dont like it go buy a team in another sport that doesnt practice revenue sharing...or get out of the nfl and put all your money into your own private business where you dont have to share with anyone...or hell just retire and live off the interest of the money you already have...

[SD_Eagle5]

I hear you, but it isn't that clear cut.  "Worth" fluctuates.  Sure, the Franchises are worth more, but that doesn't inherently give them money to spend.  My house is "worth" a lot of money, too...but that doesn't do a damn thing to help me pay the bills regularly.

A) I'm sure the Pats and Eagles did fine the past 5 years with revenue. I can't believe for one second that either would bitch after the support they've received from their fans.
B) When you have a close to Billion dollar asset it makes it pretty easy to get loans and whatnot.

and the revenue is used to pay them back. the lurie's and kraft's of the nfl, have used their high revenue streams to finance things like the stadium, and training complexes, and then the salaries, and taxs and everything else.

every dollar in is not profit, there are a lot of bills to pay, in untilities, salaries for players and office employees. some of the larger market owners need the higher revenue to pay back their debts. if too much of the revenue is lost to the pool, then there could be some trouble within those teams in the future that counted on that lost future income to pay back it's debt.

this plan is not to bring the lower revenue teams up to the higher ones, it does the opposite, it brings the higher ones back down to the rest. Zanshin is right, just because an asset has appreciated does not give you more money, unless you liquidate that asset. and even then it would be less any debt.

**edit**
this is not to say that they are poor souls who need sympathy, but in the realm of the nfl, this must be considered. as profitable as the nfl has been recently, it is a very fragile business model, because there is no gaurentee of an improved product in the future.

So what you're saying is the Lurie's/Kraft's of the world pocket some coin while their franchises worth goes through the roof. If they're making even a small profit while holding onto a Billion dollar business then they're in great shape. When an asset has appreciated it has raised the value of the asset.  A = L + OE.

[Geowhizzer]

Part of the issue is that revenue sharing hasn't been universal in the NFL.  There have been parts of "revenue" that teams have been able to keep for themselves all along.

My understanding right now is that the players and the smaller-market owners want to make revenue sharing more-or-less universal, with EVERYTHING going into the pot.  The larger-market teams, that have developed these streams of revenue to boost their profits, are balking at this move.

I also believe that if these additional revenues are added to revenue sharing, they also increase the salary cap, as MMH said.

[Feva]

Who farging cares?

Listen to this guy...

[MadMarchHare]

Part of the issue is that revenue sharing hasn't been universal in the NFL.  There have been parts of "revenue" that teams have been able to keep for themselves all along.

My understanding right now is that the players and the smaller-market owners want to make revenue sharing more-or-less universal, with EVERYTHING going into the pot.  The larger-market teams, that have developed these streams of revenue to boost their profits, are balking at this move.

I also believe that if these additional revenues are added to revenue sharing, they also increase the salary cap, as MMH said.

But there's the issue.  Some teams (Eagles, Pats, taterskins (hate to say it)) have found ways to increase their profits, while teams like the Cardinals haven't.  The latter want more of the former's money, and don't want to have to earn it.  To them, I say farg you.  As Florio has said, demonstrate not getting someone else's earned money is causing harm before you bitch.

[Rome]

There are some jealous motherfargers in this forum.

Pointing and laughing at those of you who are... 

[PhillyPhreak54]

Spads just said that he predicts that FA will start on Monday.

He said that he sees it going like this - Owners and NFLPa agree on a deal on TUE/WED. Then they will ask for and be granted a request to delay FA so the number crunchers and personnel guys can figure out who, what when where and why of the new CBA and then FA starts on Monday.

I wouldn't mind that. I'm off on Mondays and can pull another all nighter.

[SD_Eagle5]

I don't want to wait a whole nother week. 

[phattymatty]

I might start watching baseball if this wait continues much longer.

[The BIGSTUD]

That would be BS.

[MadMarchHare]

So....they have a contigency in case it doesn't get signed, but no contigency if it does?

[Feva]

To hell with Monday... we should all have our farging Bentley jerseys on the way by now. 

farg that... no more delays.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Well, if it does get signed they cannot have a locked down plan in place because the salary cap number isn't set yet and would not be set until the deal is agreed upon. Then they'd know what the DGR % is and then set the cap number. And then they'd give teams time to figure out what to do.

I wanted it to start last night. But since it didn't, I am rooting for it to start next Monday for my own selfish reason. I want to be able to be on-line when the signing and craziness starts.

[rjs246]

Golden Goose! Golden Goose!

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Golden Goose! Golden Goose!

That is an excellent point.