2006 Point & Laugh at the taterskins thread

[Beermonkey]

Ha. ES used to take "donations" from their idiot members to help keep their server running, so a bunch of them said they would donate $500 or $100 or whatever if the Skins made the playoffs. Well, when they sold out even more and became part of taterskins.com, they didn't need to collect payments from their stupid fans anymore. So Art, always looking to sound smart and mature but still comes off as a pompous ass, propsed this plan:

My thought, a better thought, is simple. The money still goes to the benefit of the community. We don't have server costs any longer, so we don't need that anymore. However, you guys might consider this.

The money still comes to ES and we can provide it to Huly and Pez to help make the unofficial tailgate better and allowing all ES members who attend games to get some benefit from the bets. We could even save some and use it to run contests on our own to give people prizes -- maybe even a trip to a game -- and the like.

If things were fair, he would've been crushed to a slow, painful death by a wild pack of dogs 15 years ago.

I saw that quote today also & think it's indicative of his true nature. Instead of donating it to some valid charity, he proposed sending it to a mini-football team affiliated with another poster or to people who give out free beer & food at a tailgate. farging worthless, selfish prick. Eat my ass Art.

If the Skins are funding that site, why should fan donations go towards member prizes. farging corksucker.

[rjs246]

Anyone else think its rather funny that Arrington has a cap number of $12,045,980 and that cutting him would actually result in a $120,00 CHARGE to the Skins? Good stuff.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So, they seriously cannot cut him if the CBA doesn't get extended.  They really have to hope he'll renegotiate... again.

[MDS]

It will mean good bye for some role type/reserve type players, but we aren't going to be shredded like the media thinks so. We won't be losing any of our "core" guys. The bad thing is, we won't be able to go after big free agents this year, that's the real negative. But think about it, if this is the path we go down, after next year, the highest grossing and most expensive franchise in the NFL will be in a pretty good position for an uncapped year.

Sure we'll suck next year, but imagine, we can buy a gazillion free agents in 2007!! we'll be superbowl champs for sure.

[Beermonkey]

It will mean good bye for some role type/reserve type players, but we aren't going to be shredded like the media thinks so. We won't be losing any of our "core" guys. The bad thing is, we won't be able to go after big free agents this year, that's the real negative. But think about it, if this is the path we go down, after next year, the highest grossing and most expensive franchise in the NFL will be in a pretty good position for an uncapped year.

Sure we'll suck next year, but imagine, we can buy a gazillion free agents in 2007!! we'll be superbowl champs for sure.

I understand they can buy picks too. Hypothetically, if Danny really was in love with Vince Young, he could pay Houston $20 mill + Patrick Ramsey & take their pick.  The funny thing is, that was an actual thought I read there.

[MDS]

Javon Walker is not getting the money he deserves from Green Bay. He wants a trade.

And Green Bay needs a solid #2 QB, maybe even a #1 if Favre does retire. Aaron Rodgers is not ready to start.

I think this would rock! Javon Walker would be a great second threat. Could you imagine defending a duo like Santana Moss and Javon Walker? Awesome.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

They think they can trade Ramsey straight up for Javon Walker?  HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!

So, Rodgers is not NFL-ready, but Campbell should be good-to-go to compete for the job in D.C. this year, right?


These people are constant sources of humor.

[ice grillin you]

Brunell Reluctant to Redo Salary Again

By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 1, 2006; E02

The Washington taterskins met with representatives for quarterback Mark Brunell over the weekend in an attempt to restructure his salary and create additional space under the salary cap by the NFL deadline on Friday.

Brunell's agent, Leigh Steinberg, rejected the team's proposal, sources said, and although the sides have not negotiated since, the taterskins could make another attempt to rework the contract before Friday.

The taterskins have $115.4 million devoted to their 2006 salary cap, and must get under what is projected to be about a $96 million cap by 12:01 a.m. Friday if there is not an extension of the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the NFL Players Association. Without an extension, the taterskins face as tough a challenge as any team in the league in meeting the cap. With an extension, the cap figure could approach $108 million.

Brunell, who signed a seven-year, $43 million contract, including a guaranteed $8.6 million signing bonus, in 2004, has a $4 million base salary for 2006, second highest on the team. The taterskins had hoped to convert his base salary into bonuses and diminish his cap figure by several million dollars, but Steinberg declined, according to two sources with knowledge of the situation.

Steinberg, who agreed to rework Brunell's contract last year after a poor 2004 season, declined to comment, but sources said he met with Eric Schaffer, Washington's director of football administration, Friday night at the Indianapolis hotel where team executives and agents converged for the NFL combine.

Coach Joe Gibbs would not comment directly on Brunell's situation, or whether the team would approach him again, but said in general the taterskins are considering all means of managing the cap, given the uncertainty of labor negotiations.

"At this time, a lot of teams have a number of scenarios going on and they're talking to a number of their players to find ways to fulfill their obligations with the salary cap," Gibbs said. "But so much is up in the air right now, and we've got all kinds of scenarios going depending on how this thing turns out" with the CBA.

Brunell, who turns 36 in September, and offensive linemen Jon Jansen and Randy Thomas are three of the most obvious candidates for restructuring for cap purposes, but agents for those players said they have made no movement toward altering those contracts as of the start of this week. Thomas is coming off the best season of his career and Jansen played much of the season with broken thumbs.

Gibbs has been Brunell's biggest supporter throughout his roller-coaster tenure here, prizing his leadership and smarts, and has favored experienced passers throughout his Hall of Fame coaching career. Brunell has significant leverage because he would count more against the salary cap if traded or cut than he presently does ($5.43 million), and Washington's quarterback situation certainly also plays in Brunell's favor.

Patrick Ramsey, the only other quarterback on the roster with NFL experience, has been granted permission to seek a trade and is being shopped aggressively after sitting on the bench virtually all of 2005. Gibbs said that, as of yesterday afternoon, there had been no real progress toward a deal, but Miami and the New York Jets are interested, and there is sentiment in the league that a third- or fourth-round pick would satisfy the taterskins.

Jason Campbell, a first-round pick last year, was the third quarterback last season and Gibbs has said he is ready to fill a bigger role this season.

Gibbs said that if the taterskins cannot receive "value" for Ramsey he could still return, but the team agreed it would move the former first-round pick after benching him, sources said, and could use the $1.7 million in cap savings that trading him would provide, particularly if Campbell is ready to at least be the backup.

The taterskins would like to clear sufficient cap space to acquire a wide receiver and a pass-rushing defensive end in free agency, which begins Friday.

A new CBA would make it even more likely Washington could retain free agent safety Ryan Clark, tight end Robert Royal and defensive end Demetric Evans.

[Feva]

The Washington taterskins met with representatives for quarterback Mark Brunell over the weekend in an attempt to restructure his salary and create additional space under the salary cap by the NFL deadline on Friday.

Brunell's agent, Leigh Steinberg, rejected the team's proposal, sources said, and although the sides have not negotiated since, the taterskins could make another attempt to rework the contract before Friday.

Maybe they should have good ol' Coach Gibbs go over to Brunell's camp to talk to him.  Apparently, Gibbs wouldn't have to say a word, just simply wink at him... and Brunell will come begging to take another paycut.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The taterskins would like to clear sufficient cap space to acquire a wide receiver and a pass-rushing defensive end in free agency, which begins Friday.

So, they're about $20 million over the current cap, and they want to get far enough under to sign two quality players in free agency AND all their draft picks?  That's funny.

Pointing, and laughing.

[ice grillin you]

at the same two positions as the eagles

it all but certain there wont be one now but root for no deal

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I can't bring myself to root for no deal, because I think it's bad for the sport overall.


But if there is no deal, it will be really funny to see all the teams who never valued restraint due to the salary cap, like the taterskins, purging really good players and making their idiot fans believe they can coach up any old scrubs to win it all.  It will be high comedy.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Brunell refusing to renegotiate is only the beginning. They are going to ask Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas, Portis, Moss, everyone who has a big cap number to renegotiate, and most likely, none will do so. Most of these guys have already had to renegotiate one or two times. In some cases, more than that.

[SunMo]

I can't bring myself to root for no deal, because I think it's bad for the sport overall.


But if there is no deal, it will be really funny to see all the teams who never valued restraint due to the salary cap, like the taterskins, purging really good players and making their idiot fans believe they can coach up any old scrubs to win it all.  It will be high comedy.

the highest

[ice grillin you]

bad things happening to the taterskins>bad things happening to the sport