Of the following players, who would you pick at 14

[PhillyPhreak54]

trotter was more effective than lito shepard at pass coverage last year.

so what are everyones thoughts on McDougle?  Is he going to get his chance this year?  Is he the starter after a few games?  Either way, a rookie is not going to start opposite Kearse.

Cole will probably start at RDE.

But McDougle will have a good season, I think. He's finally healthy and thats something that hasn't happened in his first 3 years.

[Diomedes]

But McDougle will have a good season, I think. He's finally healthy and thats something that hasn't happened in his first 3 years.

He's been out of the game so long, I'd be stupefied if he made an impact next year at all.  IMHO, he needs a full, injury free year to get back into the game.  Let's just say I'm not going to bet anything on his prospects for success.

[rjs246]

He's been out of the game so long, I'd be stupefied if he made an impact next year at all.

^^^^^
This is the reaction of a reasonable person. How can anyone even begin to expect anything from a dude who hasn't played in forever and wasn't all that good when he did play? I love your passion and optimism and whatnot phreak, but please.

[Wingspan]

Thats why they need a good nickle backer, like Ike was in 2004, to help.

And QBs or C's always shout out the MLB's number, wing. They have to identify the Mike backer for blitz pickup and blocking assignment duties. That's why you always see the C or QB point to the Mike as they set at the line.

Trotter isn't overrated at all. And yeah, thats homertastic of me to say but the guy is a beast.

they showed brady on the sideline after saying he went to a pass because it was specifically trotter.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'll explain why I expect him to be good.

He showed flashes of what he can be in 2004 before the irregular heartbeat and sprained knee hobbled him. It didn't translate into raw numbers but you could see him with a good burst and good discipline on contain. He hasn't been able to be on the field fully healthy for along period of time. In 2003 he was done in during the preseason with the trifecta of leg injuries. even when he got back on the field he wasn't ready. He wasn't fully healthy when he returned in week 11 of 2003 and the fact that he missed a lot of the PS and whatnot caused him to not only be behind but the knee was still a problem.

The only time he was healthy was the early part of 2004 before the irregular heartbeat issue and sprained knee. And in that early part of 2004 I liked what I saw from him. That is why I think he will contribute when given the chance.

Too many people are writing him off. I could understand if he was healthy and not able to contrbute because he sucked but that hasn't been the case.

A perfect comparison:

Derrick Burgess.

2001 - showed flashes and had 6 sacks in part time play
2002 - broken foot
2003 - torn achilles
2004 - separated sternum later on and only had 2.5 sacks in the season
2005 - 16 sacks

2003 - ankle, knee and hip injuries
2004 - irregular heartbeat , sprained knee
2005 - gunshot wound
2006 - ??
Give McDougle a chance on the field and when healthy.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Thats why they need a good nickle backer, like Ike was in 2004, to help.

And QBs or C's always shout out the MLB's number, wing. They have to identify the Mike backer for blitz pickup and blocking assignment duties. That's why you always see the C or QB point to the Mike as they set at the line.

Trotter isn't overrated at all. And yeah, thats homertastic of me to say but the guy is a beast.

they showed brady on the sideline after saying he went to a pass because it was specifically trotter.

Ah, ok. I thought you were saying because he called his number out. And that is what I said...them identifying the mike backer.

And NE did a good job of keeping him on the field in passing situ's. They couldn't get Ike out there in nickle. When they did have Ike in they ran.

[mussa]

i totally forgot about Trent Cole! HA!

Although I would like to see McDougle out there on rotation

[rjs246]

Who's Trent Cole?

[The BIGSTUD]

From what I saw of McDougle, I don't think he's going to be anything. I liked what I saw of Cole for his first 3 or 4 games, but then he really tailed off. DE is my #1 priority, and I hope Cole isn't the starter next year. I want Abraham, but if he's tagged and the Eagles won't make a trade for him, then they have to try to get up there for Mario Williams.

I have a strange feeling that is who Andy wants too. Maybe it's wishful thinking, and even if he wants him it doesn't mean he can get up there to get him.

[phillywin2k5]

From what I saw of McDougle, I don't think he's going to be anything. I liked what I saw of Cole for his first 3 or 4 games, but then he really tailed off. DE is my #1 priority, and I hope Cole isn't the starter next year. I want Abraham, but if he's tagged and the Eagles won't make a trade for him, then they have to try to get up there for Mario Williams.

I have a strange feeling that is who Andy wants too. Maybe it's wishful thinking, and even if he wants him it doesn't mean he can get up there to get him.

#14 is a crap shoot, just look at McDougle and other players drafted in that range. They would be better off trading that pick or maybe a #2 and #5 (Hugh Douglas Trade) to get Abraham.

[ice grillin you]

abraham is a bum...he puts forth minimum effort now...imagine when his pockets get fat

[phillywin2k5]

cant be any worse that Jevon "Stinger" Kearse.

[The BIGSTUD]

Abraham isn't a bum. Just because of that one incident in the playoffs last year everyone thinks he doesn't play hard. He produces sacks and pressure. Isn't that exactly what we need? Maybe he will play lazy with the big bucks, but I don't see any other options. Abraham lazy is better than Kiwanuka.

[ice grillin you]

its not just that one incident...its his overall play...ask any jets fan...he produces but still takes many plays off and wont play with anything worse than a hang nail...he should be getting 15-20 sacks on the regular with the talent he has...last year...in his big contract year he got 10....unacceptable and not worthy of the big bucks...i dont even like kiwanuka and id take my chances with him over abraham

[PhillyPhreak54]

Abraham is lazy. He had that sprained knee and refused to play against SD in the playoffs because it was his contract year.