Franchise Tag prices (Runyan discussion)

Started by MURP, February 07, 2006, 10:57:36 AM

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PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: qwert246 on February 07, 2006, 11:36:05 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2006, 11:27:51 AM
There should be a few good OL that are much younger than Runyan available in FA, most notably Phreak's boy Steve Hutchinson...
Hutchinson doesn't solve the teams tackle problems.
Tra is coming off back surgery, and Andrews is too fat and slow for tackle.
Herremans/Tra or Herremans/Andrews?
The franchise tag for Runyan is not a bad idea at all.

Andrews stays at RG. He's fat but he isn't too slow. That guy can get his 380 moving with a quickness. Watch him sometime and it'll amaze you how good his footwork is.

But like I said above...if they sign Hutch then it means that they have a good OL even with Herremans at RT. But I want Runyan back.

PoopyfaceMcGee

You're not going to get Runyan back AND Hutchinson... guaran-farging-teed.

SunMo

that's why, they're going to let Runyan walk, sign Hutchinson, and draft either Justice or McNeil
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PoopyfaceMcGee

You might want to start praying now.

I would bet good money that they sign zero FA's, including Runyan, for the offensive line.

qwert246

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2006, 11:43:38 AM
You might want to start praying now.

I would bet good money that they sign zero FA's, including Runyan, for the offensive line.
So you're buying what Heckert is selling?

MURP

I dont think Runyan would mind the franchise tag.  Its gaurunteed big money for one year of service.  He doesnt plan on playing much longer so its not like he wants a 7 year deal.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2006, 11:40:13 AM
You're not going to get Runyan back AND Hutchinson... guaran-farging-teed.

Yes, I know that. Never said they'd get both.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: qwert246 on February 07, 2006, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2006, 11:43:38 AM
You might want to start praying now.

I would bet good money that they sign zero FA's, including Runyan, for the offensive line.

So you're buying what Heckert is selling?

Sure.  I'm saying what I believe will happen... not what I believe should happen.

SunMo

Quote from: MURP on February 07, 2006, 11:46:10 AM
I dont think Runyan would mind the franchise tag.  Its gaurunteed big money for one year of service.  He doesnt plan on playing much longer so its not like he wants a 7 year deal.

he's already said that he knows this is his last contract and he can get a big-time signing bonus.  them giving him the franchise tag would piss him off somethin fierce
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

His SB + salary would likely be =/> the FT offer.

One thing to remember if they do not get a new CBA done. The amounts of SB's will not be as big because they cannot prorate them for 6 or 7 years. This isn't a good time to be a UFA if you're lookin for big time cash. Unless a team has a ton of cap space and gives most of it as roster bonuses.

MURP

if he can find a SB of more than 7 million than good luck.  Otherwise the franchise tag is money in the bank. 

qwert246

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 07, 2006, 11:59:52 AM
One thing to remember if they do not get a new CBA done.
I honestly can't see this happening.  It fargs with every team if this happens (not just the Skins).  I would be surprised.

Runyan wants to stay in Philly, so there's that. 

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: MURP on February 07, 2006, 11:59:54 AM
if he can find a SB of more than 7 million than good luck.  Otherwise the franchise tag is money in the bank. 

That's why you give him a relatively short contract with a signing bonus in the $5m range, as I suggested.  That's even more money in the bank.  Instead of getting his salary in the fall in the form of game checks, he'd make most of it right away in one chunk... and it would be a lot cheaper against the Eagles 2006 cap.

qwert246

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 07, 2006, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: MURP on February 07, 2006, 11:59:54 AM
if he can find a SB of more than 7 million than good luck.  Otherwise the franchise tag is money in the bank. 

That's why you give him a relatively short contract with a signing bonus in the $5m range, as I suggested.  That's even more money in the bank.  Instead of getting his salary in the fall in the form of game checks, he'd make most of it right away in one chunk... and it would be a lot cheaper against the Eagles 2006 cap.
Someone will offer more and he will be gone.  The tag offers some protection with picks.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Just letting him go would be 10 times smarter than the tag.  We don't need that drama this offseason.