McNabb on NFL Network, NFL Live, SportsCenter, etc.

Started by BigEd76, January 31, 2006, 05:45:19 PM

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PhillyGirl

And there you have the "typical" Philly sports fan, folks.

In a nutshell.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

SunMo

you don't agree that Donovan is overly-sensitive and lets things bother him more than they should?

i love the guy, wear his jersey, and that's obvious to me.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

this may be a surprise to most people...but he is human. why is it wrong for him to still be bitter about all of those things that happened?

theres nothing wrong with him...by all accounts he seems like a swell guy and good person...i like him a lot hes one of my favorite players...but is he the kind of guy that can quarterback a team to a championship in a city like philadelphia...i have huge questions regarding that
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Mad-Lad

Quote from: MURP on February 03, 2006, 08:59:58 AM
Just goes to show that once again, most of Philadelphia's stupid fan base is up to their usual nonsense.

I think they're getting stupider each day.  'trade mcnabb for culpepper' is one of my favorites.

PoopyfaceMcGee

I hate that I feel this way, but I agree with IGY 100%.


Why are you all defending McNabb and saying he has a right to be "human"?  Most humans don't lead an NFL team to a Super Bowl win, so Donovan can't afford to be like most humans.  He's not just any human, and he's not just any pro athlete.  He is the franchise player in a pressure-filled city.  He has to suck up his feelings and play some damn ball.

EDIT:  And to clarify, I wouldn't trade McNabb for 3 Culpeppers.  McNabb is the only hope this team has for a Super Bowl in the next decade or so, and I just want him to turn the corner mentally to lead the team there.

Wingspan

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 03, 2006, 09:12:06 AM
what scares me is that if these stupid ass things bother him imagine what real pressure or a big mistake in a big football game game will do to him...what happens when he gets booed out of the stadium early next season cause of a bad game or loss...and then following week hes getting killed in the philly media...does he hold that with him and let it effect him on the field like he lets thess other far less issues bother him...

except that already happened. typical short memoried philly fans seemed to forget the first 5 weeks of 2003.

he seemed to rebound from that just fine.
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ice grillin you

fwiw i dont want mcnabb traded or benched or anything of the sort...but that doesnt mean i cant question him

id get rid of reid waaaaaaay before mcnabb
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Wingspan

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 03, 2006, 09:16:33 AM
I hate that I feel this way, but I agree with IGY 100%.


Why are you all defending McNabb and saying he has a right to be "human"?  Most humans don't lead an NFL team to a Super Bowl win, so Donovan can't afford to be like most humans.  He's not just any human, and he's not just any pro athlete.  He is the franchise player in a moron city.  He has to suck up his feelings and play some damn ball.

yeah...who can forget the game when he came out at halftime dressed in a cheerleader outfit, because no one said to him "suck up your feelings and play some damn ball"

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PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 03, 2006, 09:12:06 AM
he didnt reach a breaking point...he finally just spoke on the issues...and his talk is a clear representation of his psyche...which is soft whiny to easily effected by the weakest of criticisms

20 eagle fans boo the teams choice of pick seven years ago and hes still hung up on it?

some psycho nazi right wing racist blowhard speaks on his football play....and he cares why?

jerry mondesire?...gimme a break...two days after he spouted off the national president of the naacp ripped mondesire...so why is that still even being mentioned

what scares me is that if these stupid ass things bother him imagine what real pressure or a big mistake in a big football game game will do to him...what happens when he gets booed out of the stadium early next season cause of a bad game or loss...and then following week hes getting killed in the philly media...does he hold that with him and let it effect him on the field like he lets thess other far less issues bother him...i wonder if hes even past the dallas pick yet...

Did you not read what Dawkins said? He said the man reached a breaking point. No offense to you or anyone else, but what he says carries some weight because he is close with the guy.

Like I said in my previous post...you and I might not let things like that bother you. But it is very easy for those of us who don't lead public lives to sit back and criticize.

Big mistake in a football you say? He's made several of those and was able to rebound.

Booed out of the stadium you say? Remember the Week 2 game in 2003 against the Pats when not only was he getting booed but he had water bottles thrown at him, people cheering him being injured for a minute after he got leveled and chanting for AJ Feeley? Yeah. It happened.

Killed in the Philly media? Shoot, that has happened numerous times.

The guy is human. He isn't a machine. No matter how much cash he has, no matter how public his life is the guy gets criticized out the ass by people all the time.

SunMo

all of this will be forgotten, when they sign Rocky, Will, Steve, and draft Winston
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Sun_Mo on February 03, 2006, 09:14:46 AM
you don't agree that Donovan is overly-sensitive and lets things bother him more than they should?

i love the guy, wear his jersey, and that's obvious to me.

Yes. But that shouldn't be a reason to hate on the guy like some people are doing. That goes back to what I said about him being a human.

We're all different. Some of us can't take criticism, some of us can. Some of us hold grudges and some of us don't.

The way he is is the way he is. If something bothers him why should we care? Most of the time we don't even know about it. But this time he reached his point and let it out. And it is obvious that he stepped in a pile of shtein with the race stuff. But like I said...so the guy made a mistake, so effing what?

Pro sports guys make a whole helluva lot of bigger farg ups than McNabb and they are not treated like this.

ice grillin you

i honestly dont put any weight into what brian dawkins says,...if he didnt come out in full 100% support of his qb id be disappointed...dawk saw what TO did to mcnabb and knows the last thing he would ever need is to feel as though another teammate isnt fully supporting him
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

you're right, there are worse qualities in people.  i also think you overreact to his treatment. 

the haters (for the most part) are always the vocal ones, they hate him and use any opportunity to bash him. 

i support the guy, i don't agree with him on this issue, but i support him.   

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

Maybe I do overreact a little bit. But I am a Donovan fan. I have been since day one. And thats why I despise the people for booing him.

But mostly maybe my feelings come from seeing many of our biggest athletes in this city ripped to no end. It's like running athletes out of town is a sport in itself.

I've said from the jump that he is in no way immune to criticism. He deserves to be criticized when he plays bad. But it goes over the top many times and that bothers me.

Butchers Bill

I am not a big SAS fan, but this is a pretty decent article:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/13778942.htm

QuoteThe last time I checked, the mere mention of "black-on-black crime" was reserved for the impoverished people struggling to survive in the mean streets of America. You never thought about such things when it came to two African American millionaires, arguing and bickering about matters on artificial turf while cashing checks that amount to more in two weeks than most families bring home in a year.
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I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
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