Officiating in playoffs

Started by henchmanUK, January 16, 2006, 05:06:48 AM

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MURP

I say there is no one out there who watches football other than a Colts fan who thinks that Polamalu play was incomplete.  The ref did, therefor he was a Colts fan. 

Cerevant

Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 16, 2006, 02:08:53 PM
"The issue was whether he had possession. The ball came loose when he was getting up. Pete Morelli determined it wasn't a catch," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "That was his judgment."

I think this supports my argument - why would the ball coming loose while getting up be relevant if it wasn't part of the rule?

Just being devil's advocate here...I personally think this is another bullshtein-tuck-rule call where the judgement should be about the intent of the rule, rather than the absolute wording.
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MURP

So if he just lays there on the ground it is an INT, but if he decides to get up and run after his INT and fumbles it, it is an imcomplete pass?   hardy haaaar haar. 

PhillyPhreak54

The ref stated at the beginning of his announcement that Polamalu caught the ball. He specifically said "he caught the ball"

It was a bullshtein call any way you slice it.

MadMarchHare

I agree it was a crap call.  But Polamalu shouldn't have gotten up.  Game was over with that pick, why risk it?
Anyone but Reid.

PhillyPhreak54

Because he ain't very smart. Just look at his dumbass lateral in Cincy last week.

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Quote from: MURP on January 16, 2006, 03:36:30 PM
So if he just lays there on the ground it is an INT, but if he decides to get up and run after his INT and fumbles it, it is an imcomplete pass?   hardy haaaar haar. 

Yes, exactly.  Just like every QB should "pump fake" at the beginning of the play and leave their arm out away from their bodies so that any fumble would be ruled an incomplete pass.

A similar rule exists for catches in the end-zone: If a receiver catches the ball and gets both feet down, then gets hit and drops it, it is a TD.  If the receiver catches the ball, gets both feet down, and the ball comes out when he hits the ground, it is incomplete.  Stupid rule.
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Diomedes

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 16, 2006, 03:42:47 PMBecause he ain't very smart. Just look at his dumbass lateral in Cincy last week.

Getting up after that pick and the lateral last week notwithstanding, I think you'd have to agree that Polamalu is one of the more intelligent players in the league.  Going simply by the "can you speak in full sentences" measure, he's got 75% of the league beat.
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PhillyGirl

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Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 16, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
NFL official say: They got it WRONG

Yeah, but there was an obscure rule involved...not cut and dry as everyone assumes...

Quote"The rule regarding the performing of an act common to the game applies when there is contact with a defensive player and the ball comes loose, which did not happen here."

Give the refs a farging break.  You need to be a farging lawyer to understand half the rules, and they do it part-time...

I'll shut up and go away now. 
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stillupfront

Quote from: Diomedes on January 16, 2006, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 16, 2006, 03:42:47 PMBecause he ain't very smart. Just look at his dumbass lateral in Cincy last week.

Getting up after that pick and the lateral last week notwithstanding, I think you'd have to agree that Polamalu is one of the more intelligent players in the league.  Going simply by the "can you speak in full sentences" measure, he's got 75% of the league beat.

I agree Dio. The guy also shows that thing called football intellegence. Few have it. Dawkins, Polamalu, Reed.....a few others. Guys that are always around the ball.


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rjs246

I can't believe that any of you care about the officiating in any of these games. Watching officials farg up calls in games that the Eagles aren't playing in is farging hysterical. The sideline and commentator reactions are priceless.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

bobbyinlondon

Quote from: rjs246 on January 16, 2006, 05:44:37 PM
I can't believe that any of you care about the officiating in any of these games. Watching officials farg up calls in games that the Eagles aren't playing in is farging hysterical. The sideline and commentator reactions are priceless.

Yeah, but if you're a FOOTBALL FAN, WITH NO EAGLES GAMES TO WATCH, the playoffs are worth watching. But it's just strange how these guys, who have been officiating FOR YEARS, even with instant replay can screw up the calls.

rjs246

I am a huge football fan but I couldn't care less about the officiating decisions being made in these games. I prefer that they call nothing so I can spend more time watching the game and less time seeing Ed Hochuli's face, but outside of that, I odn't care how they officiate the games.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

phillymic2000

Quote from: rjs246 on January 17, 2006, 12:10:22 PM
I am a huge football fan but I couldn't care less about the officiating decisions being made in these games. I prefer that they call nothing so I can spend more time watching the game and less time seeing Ed Hochuli's face, but outside of that, I odn't care how they officiate the games.

It wasn't just bad officiating, in the Steelers/colts game, it was obivious the team they wanted to come out of the game. The flinch on the O-lineman, that became a "uh no foul, just replay", that wouldn't even fly with my crew when we officiate little league football. the coaches would have gone nuts.