Why Peyton Is A Fraud

[MURP]

lol.  Manning cant even win playoff games with one of the best supporting casts in recent memory.   Other years it was "well the Colts defense isnt any good."  Well this year the Colts had a great defense and they still didnt get anywhere.  Excuses left and right.  ha. 

[SD_Eagle5]

lol.  Manning cant even win playoff games with one of the best supporting casts in recent memory.   Other years it was "well the Colts defense isnt any good."  Well this year the Colts had a great defense and they still didnt get anywhere.  Excuses left and right.  ha. 

At home too, no Pats, no cold weather. Plenty of excuses.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Once again...and I'll break this down so maybe some of yall can get a clue as to why I see Manning as a fraud and held big time responsible for yesterday.

1. Peyton likes to take things into his own hands on offense. he is the one who essentially sets up the pass pro schemes when he calls out the play at the LOS. He is the one who calls his own plays for christs sake! And what happened? He looked like garbage when he did it.

LIke I said before...he had no not routes called nor did he go away from the 7-step drops.

What do you do if a pass rush is getting to you? Screens, draws and SHORT DROPS (3 step). What did Peyton call? 5 & 7 steps most of the time.

And once again the reason I brought McNabb into this is because he takes too much heat for stupid shtein. But when Peyton screws the pooch he isn't blasted as he should be. Does that make me a "groupie" I guess so.

So what if Peyton had 290 yards? How many yards did Donovan throw for in the SB? It doesn't matter because he lost, just like Peyton.

[ice grillin you]

IGY, you were one of the "first five." Are you a McNabb groupie?

lol...you really went back and counted didnt you?...you got me...sorry i was the 5th...point made tho and i think you knew that

BTW, you still haven't put in your list of what QBs you'd rather have right now.

manning
brady
palmer
rothlesberger

for sure

culpepper...and before the minions come charging after me...all im gonna say is if yous can say that manning has an advantage over mcnabb because of the team around him...ill say that culpepper on the eagles would be better than mcnabb and would have led them farther than mcnabb has



hasselbeck
delhomme

are both about equal...next week and the superbowl could push either or both pass mcnabb...hasselbeck especially is imo about to jump into greatness



there may be some better ones out there...but its hard to say...a lot of it has to do with....as i mentioned with culpepper...the situation they are in

[MURP]

so you give guys a break for their "situation" they are in and use it against McNabb.   Ever stop to think about the situation McNabb has been in?   Todd Pinkston, James Thrash?  a coach with no cares to bring a credible run game to the table?  ring a bell?    How about putting McNabb in Pittsburgh offense where he can rely on the run?  How about surrounding McNabb with  Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne.  How about THAT situation?   McNabb had a season for the history books with a talant like Terrell Owens around.    Culpepper had Randy Moss forever and was a good player.  He loses Randy Moss and he plays like Bobby Hoying.    Its ridiculous  to say other QB's would be great in the Eagles offense but McNabb wouldnt do any better in another offense.

[ice grillin you]

no im replacing mcnabb with these other qb's in the same eagles situation

btw mcnabbs 'season for the ages' would be culpeppers second best campaign..,and its only slighty better than his number two

[hunt]

in case i'm being included in "you guys"...i'm not giving manning any breaks...i just don't think he was that horrible yesterday...look at the numbers.  had he thrown 3 picks like mcnabb did in the super bowl, i might think otherwise.
manning and mcnabb both choke like dogs in big games.

[MURP]

yeah, with Randy Moss, which is exactly the point.   You think Culepper would be better than McNabb with guys like Pinkston and Thrash.   Yet you fail to mention McNabb playing in a offensive situation surrounded by talent like Moss, Harrison, or a running game. 

[hunt]

you almost sound like you're criticizing the front office for not getting any offensive weapons...and the coaching staff for their lack of a run game.
you feelin' alright? 

[stillupfront]

no im replacing mcnabb with these other qb's in the same eagles situation

btw mcnabbs 'season for the ages' would be culpeppers second best campaign..,and its only slighty better than his number two

What a load of bullshtein!

All the McNabb detractors want to bring up his 6TD 8Int performance in CCGs and SB.

His 32TD 8Int trumps anything Culpepper has ever done.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

IGY saying with a straight face that Culpepper is a better QB than is McNabb makes me laugh a lot.


I don't think McNabb is the best ever or anything, but Culpepper is absolutely NOTHING without Randy Moss.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Something I was thinking about today...

I wonder if the Colts saw their arch-nemesis Pats lose on Saturday night and knew that they had an easy ride to the SB without them in there so they came out flat because of that?

[ice grillin you]

His 32TD 8Int trumps anything Culpepper has ever done

culpepper  4700  39   11   70%
mcnabb     3875  31     8   64%

[stillupfront]

The Eagles in reality played a 13 game schedule in 2004.

[Wingspan]

no im replacing mcnabb with these other qb's in the same eagles situation

btw mcnabbs 'season for the ages' would be culpeppers second best campaign..,and its only slighty better than his number two

culpepper has won 2 playoff games in his career.

I have nothing to contribute.