I'm in the market to buy a television & need assistance.

Started by Mad-Lad, November 29, 2005, 02:29:57 PM

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Mad-Lad

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 02:28:27 PM
The burn-in was caused by user error.  The wife and I preferred to watch 4:3 programming at actual ratio (and thus with bars on the sides).  Doing this regularly is apparently a problem on ANY projection TV.

That's what i'm having a hard time with.  In order to avoid the bars, i have to zoom-in and cut off the top/bottom of the image because the stretched view drives me & my lady crazy.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Mad-Lad on January 12, 2006, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 02:28:27 PM
The burn-in was caused by user error.  The wife and I preferred to watch 4:3 programming at actual ratio (and thus with bars on the sides).  Doing this regularly is apparently a problem on ANY projection TV.

That's what i'm having a hard time with.  In order to avoid the bars, i have to zoom-in and cut off the top/bottom of the image because the stretched view drives me & my lady crazy.

Hell, even your avatar will soon have burn-in problems.

SunMo

does watching a non high-def show on a high-def channel (one that has the channel provided bars along th sides) cause the same problems?
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 12, 2006, 02:36:36 PM
does watching a non high-def show on a high-def channel (one that has the channel provided bars along th sides) cause the same problems?

You mean like FOX and ESPN HD do?

Yes and no.  Basically, if you watch a ton of the same channel that does that, then you would eventually start seeing a faint burn-in of the logos on either side of your screen.  But, you'd really have to watch a LOT.

The graphics on the sides are slightly better than nothing on the sides, because it causes the center to dim slightly faster than the sides.

SunMo

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 12, 2006, 02:36:36 PM
does watching a non high-def show on a high-def channel (one that has the channel provided bars along th sides) cause the same problems?

You mean like FOX and ESPN HD do?

Yes and no.  Basically, if you watch a ton of the same channel that does that, then you would eventually start seeing a faint burn-in of the logos on either side of your screen.  But, you'd really have to watch a LOT.

The graphics on the sides are slightly better than nothing on the sides, because it causes the center to dim slightly faster than the sides.

so it's not great, but not as bad as watching normal tv in the 4:3 ratio like you did
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Cerevant

Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 02:28:27 PM
Doing this regularly is apparently a problem on ANY projection TV.
False - This is only a problem on CRT projection TVs / Projectors.  DLP and LCD projection TVs do not have this problem.
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Mad-Lad


Cerevant

Quote from: Mad-Lad on January 12, 2006, 02:59:16 PM
LCD Projection tvs won't burn?
Correct:
CRT, Plasma: Burn (although some plasmas now employ anti-burn in tech)
LCD, DLP: No Burn
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on January 12, 2006, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 12, 2006, 02:28:27 PM
Doing this regularly is apparently a problem on ANY projection TV.
False - This is only a problem on CRT projection TVs / Projectors.  DLP and LCD projection TVs do not have this problem.

That's what I meant.  Sorry.


Update:  Technician just called me and he thinks he has it straightened out.  I'm looking forward to chatting with someone on the phone to see how "straightened out" it really is.  No thanks to Best Buy, I give the technician props for trying his damnedest to deal with the farged up Best Buy system.

PoopyfaceMcGee

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Well, I just got back from Best Buy to pick out my new TV.  What an ordeal.

The problem is they simply do not have a TV comparable to the one I bought.  They have a very limited selection of CRT Projection TV's, so I would have either been looking at accepting a 51" TV (which is now a lot cheaper than my 57" was) or going for a 65" TV.  Considering my couch is 9.5 feet from the TV, 65" would probably make my eyes bleed.  Plus, I saw an opportunity, since technology had improved so much.

This being the case, they have a wide selection of LCD/DLP TV's.  Samsung and Toshiba use DLP.  Sony uses a system called 3LCD.  It was making my head spin.  The problem with any of these TV's is no matter where the price of the TV was, they WOULD NOT throw in a stand.  A decent stand costs at least $200, so I was not happy about this.  Finally, he found a TV for sale for $2499 with a stand built-in, and the sales guys couldn't be much more all over it.  I'm not a massive fan of JVC, but after some hemming and hawing, I decided to pay the $100 difference between the 1/12/03 sale price of my TV and this one to acquire it.  They're coming to take the old one and bring the new one on Sunday.

I still have to work out the warranty on the new TV, because the store was telling me that the old warranty is done and a new one now had to be purchased.  Going to have to call on that one.  But since I actually only paid $1999 (haggled them down a couple of weeks after initially purchasing the old one), and even after discovering this, they still kept their word and only charged me the $100... I think I came out OK.  What a PITA, though.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

New hotness TV getting delivered today between 10:30 - 12:30 (and old busted TV being taken away).

Look forward to the Steelers/Colts game being the first thing I watch on it.   :yay

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