Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

Started by Rome, December 16, 2005, 08:52:30 AM

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Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

JTrotter Fan

Well, you haven't mentioned what is so important that noone else can see it.  Privacy?  You think the government is spying on you?  Are you a threat?
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Diomedes

The burden of proof is not on the citizen, it's on the government.  Let them prove what is so important that they have to see it, not the other way around, Gestapo Kid
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

JTrotter Fan

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rjs246

So without having read any of this thread, are there actually people defending Bush for his sign-off on this? farging disgraceful. I don't care what you're political affiliations are, that should scare the ever-loving shtein out of everyone.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

JTrotter Fan

Well, i certainly don't defend Bush on this.  The only question i ask is, what exactly is anyone gonna do about it?
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rjs246

Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 17, 2005, 02:22:34 PM
Well, i certainly don't defend Bush on this.  The only question i ask is, what exactly is anyone gonna do about it?

Vote for anyone other than his supporters/cronies/successors in the next election. Unless Hillary is running, then I'll just do what I normally do and hope for a rich relative to die and leave me money so I can buy myself an island and make my own rules. Mandatory beer for breakfast!
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

JTrotter Fan

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rjs246

#128
Quote from: The Waco Kid on December 17, 2005, 03:10:32 PM
Well, what if McCain runs against Hilary?

I wouldn't consider McCain a Bush cronie at all and he would probably get my support, but he would probably win in such a landslide that voting would be unnecessary.

EDIT: Then again I don't really know enough about him or his politics to make a decision one way or the other right now. All I know is that I respect politicians who have the balls to speak out against their own party when they disagree with something that is going on and he seems to have that quality.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

JTrotter Fan

#129
Does anyone know who the favorites are to try for the Republican nomination yet?

Well, i found who the public wants to run. 

Giuliani is first, McCain second and Cunnilingus Rice third.
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Geowhizzer

Here's what I know so far:

1.  McCain is staying in the national spotlight.  He's almost definitely going to run.
2.  Mitt Romney (gov. Mass) just announced that he will not run for re-election.  Has indicated a desire to run for president in 2008 before, and this may be a sign that he's preparing to do so.
3.  Rice has not publicly shown an inclination to run, but could be preparing to do so behind the scenes.  Her "promotion" to Secretary of State in Bush's second term is much higher in profile, and could be a springboard.

Other than media speculation, I'm not sure about Giulianni.  However, he is still occasionally grabbing the spotlight, so it could definitely be a possibility.

Late in '06 we'll start seeing people publicly declaring their intentions.

MadMarchHare

Anyone but Reid.

JTrotter Fan

When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

MadMarchHare

Anyone but Reid.

PhillyGirl

Bush: "It was necessary and legal" :boom

QuoteThe president said he would continue the program "for so long as the nation faces the continuing threat of an enemy that wants to kill American citizens," and added it included safeguards to protect civil liberties.

Bush bristled at a year-end news conference when asked whether there are any limits on presidential power in wartime.

"I just described limits on this particular program, and that's what's important for the American people to understand," Bush said.

Raising his voice, Bush challenged Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid and Democratic Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton — without naming them — to allow a final vote on legislation renewing the anti-terror Patriot Act. "I want senators from New York or Los Angeles or Las Vegas to go home and explain why these cities are safer" without the extension, he said.
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