Phillies Offseason Talk

Started by Geowhizzer, October 02, 2005, 11:46:28 PM

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PhillyPhreak54

Send him to the Pirates for Zach Duke!

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2005, 10:07:20 PM
Send him to the Pirates for Zach Duke!

only if they include Oliver Perez
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

Dodgers about to sign Kenny Lofton.

Lofton's choices are Dodgers, DBacks or Orioles.

SunMo

on PhilliesPhans they posted some highlights from Reuben Amaro on with Jodi Mac...

QuoteI just heard the tail end of an interview with Amaro on Jody Mac's show. Random memories from the call:


- Padilla was not part of the Phillies larger plan, and there was little interest in him from other teams at the Winter Meetings. Amaro cited his inconsistancy over the past few years as a reason, despite his talent. Texas was a team interested, and as such, they persued a deal. He said that Padilla wasn't doing things the team needed him to on the mound, and "other reasons".
- The Philles are not waiting on other trades to decide who they whould pick in the PTBNL. They like the list they have from the Rangers, they just haven't decided who would work best in the Phillies plans yet.
- Philadelphia is on Vasquez's no-trade list, but the Phillies are having talks with the Diamondbacks about other things.
- The Phillies are working with the Dodgers on something.
- Trade/deal activity is still hot, he commented that they are constantly getting involved with new talks, and received several calls today.
- Commented that there are many irons in the fire for bullpen help, starting pitching help, and "other opportunities"
- Any starter that comes to the Phils will be via a trade at this point.
- Nomar is not a fit for the Phillies. He said that we don't need a shortstop, and while many people think he can play 3B, the Phillies believe he's going "backward", and that there just isn't a fit in Philadelphia fo rhim.
- Mac asked if the Phillies work a deal first, then contact a player - or contact a player and feel them out before attempting to set up a deal. Amaro said it depends on the player and the situation.
- On that note, Mac asked if the Phillies have had discussions with Lieberthal about moving him, Amaro said that it was policy not to comment.

There was more, but that's all I can remember with any accuracy.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

Thanks, Mo.

I read on PhilaPhans that Eskin reported today that Bell was heading to PIttsburgh for AAA C prospect Ronny Paulino.

Get it done!

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2005, 10:20:43 PM
Thanks, Mo.

I read on PhilaPhans that Eskin reported today that Bell was heading to PIttsburgh for AAA C prospect Ronny Paulino.

Get it done!

C as in C-level or C as in catcher?
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Geowhizzer

Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 14, 2005, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2005, 10:20:43 PM
Thanks, Mo.

I read on PhilaPhans that Eskin reported today that Bell was heading to PIttsburgh for AAA C prospect Ronny Paulino.

Get it done!

C as in C-level or C as in catcher?

Catcher.  Here's last season's stats:

AA 6 HR, 20 RBI, .292 (43 games)
AAA 13 HR, 42 RBI, .315 (77 games)
MAJ 0, 0, .500 (just 4 ABs)

He's behind both Ryan Doumit and Humberto Cota in Pittsburgh's catching plans.

BigEd76

Pittsburgh's #1 prospect is a catcher too (Neil Walker)...

MDS

i dont care if its for testicular cancer, get rid of david bell
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 14, 2005, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 14, 2005, 10:07:20 PM
Send him to the Pirates for Zach Duke!

only if they include Oliver Perez

:paranoid

Randy Miller yesterday

QuoteAt this point, the Phillies are convinced they won't get full value for Abreu, so the new focus will be to deal spare outfielder Jason Michaels. Pittsburgh has interest in Michaels, but talks broke off when the Phillies asked for left-hander starter Oliver Perez.

Quote"I'm not real comfortable with it, but at this point we'll have to do the best we can," Gillick said. "I can't see us getting somebody outside to fill the fifth spot right now. We're still up in the air on a setup guy and looking at what's on the free-agent market (for starting pitchers) and where we want to be (in payroll), I don't think there are people out there that can fill that role in our rotation. We're not paying $9 million for a pitcher."

SunMo

they are really overvaluing Abreu, i don't really care if they keep him, but to think they can get an ace for him is just silly.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

#1331
whens the last time an established really good outfielder...or any position player with a salary...was traded for a number one pitcher...fact is number one guys dont get moved that often unless its for money cutting purposes...and in return prospects are dealt...so i dont know if its that they are overvaluing bobby or its just really hard to get a number one in a trade
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Quote from: Sun_Mo on December 15, 2005, 08:26:09 AM
they are really overvaluing Abreu, i don't really care if they keep him, but to think they can get an ace for him is just silly.

I don't think they can get an ace for Abreu.  I think they can get an ace for Abreu and a combination of prospects and/or other assets.

BigEd76


Wingspan

thanks for the info, B-Ed

Signed,
W-Span
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